NHS 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 ... This is getting ridiculous now. Isn’t it?

Urmstongran

Just not 12 year old boys JaneJudge in the oncology department waiting for their cancer radiation. That’s the point.

I’m on holiday BTW and haven’t seen the other 3 trans threads VioketSky. It happens. This topic caught my eye at teatime which is why I brought it up. If people aren’t interested they’ll pass by.

Yes but no disagreement

It’s madness isn’t it? Just when we think we’ve heard it all, up pops more nonsense.
A twelve year old boy. Oh yes, better ask him if he’s pregnant to be on the safe side.

Definitely one to be filed under ‘you couldn’t make it up’
The file is growing almost by the day.

Wyllow3 today @21:15
I think you could be right with your impression that older people tend to obsess more and discuss trans etc more, just based on reading GN.
But out in the real world there are real young people as well as middle aged and older people discussing these issue too. They just don’t all have either the time or the inclination to write endless posts.

Any chance we could all read the article and understand what it says?

That there are posters going up in NHS Tayside Radiology departments. That some Daily Mail person has invented a 12 year old boy with cancer. That some "experts" think the poster isn't clear enough.

Another one for my "people like to believe not-quite-truths" file.

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11390103/12-year-old-BOYS-asked-PREGNANT-bizarre-NHS-poster-says.html

I understand why many people think the world has gone mad re. trans issues. However how would those people feel if their DD or GD identified as male - looked like a boy , wore boys clothes and had a boy's name? - and may also be pregnant! An x ray would be dangerous. I think we all need to stop looking at this issue from the point of view of those of us who are not trans. Instead let's put emphasis on those people who are struggling with gender identity. It is if no value assuming these issues are not there , they are ! and I believe in time ( a long time!) we will all accept it with empathy. Those of us who reject the the transgender issue would feel very differently indeed if they had someone they love in that position.

Many of us are solution orientated Shelflife and see people with a need and find ways to help.

Sadly some are problem orientated and enjoy making life difficult for everyone else for absolutely no reason except seeing themselves as more special and important than people who shoes they would frown upon

So does the OP suggest a full age and anatomical examination before asking the questions on the form? It’s easier to ask the questions and move on isn’t it? Can’t see what the fuss is about.

It's a manufactured fuss, to divert from the issues which are really worth making a fuss about.

It’s easier to ask the questions and move on isn’t it?
Sure, so just ask everyone with two arms and two legs, thus catering for all and not pandering to one group as in the words of the poster.
I don't get the problem. The poster clearly states ^It is our legal responsibility", so the radiographer just has to say to everyone, "it is my job to ask you......". Full stop.

Why not a big sign saying if you are pregnant please tell the doctor or nurse. Simples 😊

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Maudi
Now why didn’t the clever dicks think of that 😄

Because the question I 've usually been asked is "any chance that you are pregnant?" If you are a bit reticent about telling people you might be pregnant, it is more difficult to lie to someone's face about it, than just avoid telling someone without being asked. So there is more chance of getting the right answer.

The poster is for information, it's not the actual question.

They taught all that on the first day of clever dick school.

Must be that clever dicks school in Scotland 😂

Can I refer you to one of the threads here earlier this week where someone alerted the medical staff to the fact they were pregnant but the medical staff didn't pay enough attention because of the person's appearance, and their baby died?

A main reason, which you fail to mention, is that the patient's medical record had been changed from female to male, which obviously misled the staff.

Pretending that everyone is the sex they want to claim, rather than their real one, is completely ridiculous and I can see that this health board is trying to cope with an impossible situation.

Easier to have one of those here because of the kilts.

That's in response to Maudi.

Maudi

Why not a big sign saying if you are pregnant please tell the doctor or nurse. Simples 😊

Also you might not know ? The question is usually phrased as “is there any possibility you could be pregnant “.
I think the poster explains the situation clearly enough, is not offensive and not worth getting all “disgusted of Tunbridge Wells” about.

Why not say 'only females who have internal reproductive organs have the ability to become pregnant?. Still stating the obvious but preferable to 'only people'.

I went for a chest X-ray last week and was not asked if I was pregnant, she just checked my name and date of birth.

In a case as you've described Shelflife, someone who identifies as, looks like and dresses like a man with has a boy's name will know that they have internal reproductive organs because they are female.

Why use the word people?

DollyD

I went for a chest X-ray last week and was not asked if I was pregnant, she just checked my name and date of birth.

And are you older than 55?

And so not part of the target audience, as explained in the poster?

Because Smileless there must be no mention of females, women or girls in case it upsets any trans people.

OK, now its a trans thread.

So long folks.

The hospital poster has two trans symbols on it.
How could it be unrelated to trans volver?