Scotland's Gender Recognition Reform Bill to be debated today 20 Dec & voted on 21 Dec

This calls for a large Baileys Bridie22 🍹

Volver...the uk government will use Section 35 of the Scotland Act to prevent the new law coming into force.
This allows Alister Jack to prevent the legislation being passed by Royal Assent.
So Rishi is involved big time.

Make mine adorable Oreo!

I will make one as adorable as you like Bridie22 😁

Typo Oreo, should say Double 🍷🤣

Yes, I know Bridie. Thanks for explaining to me the constitution as it pertains to Scottish devolution, but it really wasn't necessary. It really wasn't.

Hope you enjoy your adorable Baileys.

We will!😂

Just keeping you right volver!!!🍷 no problem.

There's something wrong with your Baileys.

Not keen on baileys so opted for a double red wine 🍷

volver

The tactic of telling big lies wasn't originated by Hitler, it was a piece of anti-Jewish propaganda that he initiated and used to justify his actions.

Bit of history education needed here, maybe.

(It's analogous to that thing they say about car crashes here. I can't look away.)

Sorry, I don't claim to know the details about Hitler and a big lie.
I just inferred from what the woman said and from the fact that Hitler did use a big lie to justify persecution of Jewish people.

She would have been better not to mention Hitler but did anyone genuinely think she meant something horrifying by what she said?

volver

Six years Bridie22. Six Years.

But that's irrelevant. What the Westminster government is saying is that they can stop the Scottish Government passing laws if it doesn't like them.

There was a lot of nothing happening during those six years.
There were also two public consultations, the complete results of which were not made public - because the public didn't agree with the proposals, I wonder?

The 'committee process' was hurried through in recent months, with several who wished to give evidence being told there was no time for them - women survivors of sexual violence and detransitioned people, for instance.
Wouldn't you think time should be made for them as 'lived experience ' was something the committee claimed to want to hear?

It's not simply because the UK government doesn't like the Bill, as anyone knows if they've been paying attention.

It's not simply because the UK government doesn't like the Bill, as anyone knows if they've been paying attention indeed FarNorth and thank goodness it appears that the UK government has been.

FarNorth

volver

The tactic of telling big lies wasn't originated by Hitler, it was a piece of anti-Jewish propaganda that he initiated and used to justify his actions.

Bit of history education needed here, maybe.

(It's analogous to that thing they say about car crashes here. I can't look away.)

Sorry, I don't claim to know the details about Hitler and a big lie.
I just inferred from what the woman said and from the fact that Hitler did use a big lie to justify persecution of Jewish people.

She would have been better not to mention Hitler but did anyone genuinely think she meant something horrifying by what she said?

I actually think she must be a bit thick to decide to quote Hitler in a speech and not bother to understand what she is quoting before she says it.

A bit thick - shock, horror!
Not quite as shock, horror as whatever you were trying to imply by posting the video.

I was trying to imply that people who make speeches can be a bit thick. 🤷🏼 That they can quote Hitler because they think that is a rational thing to do when they don't understand what it really means. That the thing they are quoting is means exactly the opposite of what they think it means.

And yet she persisted.

The main point - that's it's a Big Lie that people can change sex and men can be women - was perfectly clear.

So your attempt to highlight an unimportant mistake seems rather pointless.

Aye OK. Whatever.

We'll just live with people trying to quote Hitler and getting it completely wrong and thinking that supports their POV.

Yes we need to be careful throwing Hitler around in discussions.

Yes we do, we certainly do. Has anyone told the person who brought him up at the rally because she thought it made her point stronger?

I was being a little sarcastic because you might have posted the odd photo of a swastika to prove a point.

And I apologised and said I shouldn't have done it. But still you decide to bring it up.

Bowing out now.

Yes I am naughty sometimes.

Debbie Hayton’s thoughts on GRCs, the GRR Bill and the section 35 order.

twitter.com/debbiehayton/status/1615305246305132544?s=61&t=TdZY9U6bN-5v3P7akp2Gew

Transwoman Debbie Hayton commends this speech by Helen Joyce at the Scottish Parliament in October 2022. (3 mins)

youtu.be/vmFr71msWYI