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Harry has admitted to killing 25 people in Afghanistan.

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Sago Thu 05-Jan-23 16:13:42

Astonishing that he has announced this.
He has now put his wife, children and himself at serious risk not to mention all the other implications.

He is a silly immature and dangerous man.

Blondiescot Thu 05-Jan-23 19:41:07

GrannyGravy13

Our AS served in Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia and many other wars.

He is still in the Forces and of the many many Forces do’s , mess dinners and general socialising I have never ever heard any of these extremely brave young men and women boast of their kills . I would go as far as saying those who have been involved in the most harrowing fighting are those who say the least…

Totally agree with you there. My son served in both Afghanistan and Iraq and has never spoken of anything like that, although we know from experience that he was profoundly affected by what he saw and did there (without it reaching the level of PTSD).

Forsythia Thu 05-Jan-23 19:47:05

Like others have said, my dad was also in the army in WW2 and he would never ever talk about his time served abroad. He changed the subject. Just wouldn’t go there. Clearly, he couldn’t talk about it much less boast about killing people, if indeed he did so. Harry is a moron with no thought other than vindictiveness.

Callistemon21 Thu 05-Jan-23 20:00:57

Forsythia

Like others have said, my dad was also in the army in WW2 and he would never ever talk about his time served abroad. He changed the subject. Just wouldn’t go there. Clearly, he couldn’t talk about it much less boast about killing people, if indeed he did so. Harry is a moron with no thought other than vindictiveness.

He needs counselling.

Most veterans, if they talk about their experiences, would not be talking about the people they killed.

karmalady Thu 05-Jan-23 20:03:02

yes harry is a vindictive moran and has set himself up to be a target for the rest of his life. True heroes of WW2 like my dad who fought during the whole war, never ever spoke about war expoits and about how he earned his medals

Harry is a juvenile pratt who cannot ever be trusted to keep his mouth shut

varian Thu 05-Jan-23 20:03:15

He is a sad person who needed serious help with his mental health a long time ago but has left it too late.

Dickens Thu 05-Jan-23 20:12:45

GrannyGravy13

Good to see you posting again Germanshephersmum

... yes, good to see GSM back again!

mokryna Thu 05-Jan-23 20:12:55

The Taliban have a name now who has admitted what they have done. Where will he and his family be safe?

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 05-Jan-23 20:16:10

Thanks Dickens.

Glorianny Thu 05-Jan-23 20:16:30

OMG some of the posts on this thread are unbelievable. Isn't it time we got past the "Real men/soldiers don't talk about it" idea. Some people talk, some don't. Harry has a platform and has chosen to talk about his experiences and tell people. No one has the right to deny him that. There are hundreds of ex-service personnel who haven't been able to do that and who have severe problems because of what was done in the service of their country, many are alcoholics, many are homeless, many have no one to listen anyway. If reading this book makes even one person think about what is expected of young men and the damage they suffer, then Harry did well.

Glorianny Thu 05-Jan-23 20:19:18

mokryna

The Taliban have a name now who has admitted what they have done. Where will he and his family be safe?

Funny isn't it one young woman denied the Taliban power and went to school. She was shot. She became a hero.
Perhaps she should have kept quiet and stayed home.
I can't believe there are people justifying the actions of terrorists. How low can you go???

Joseanne Thu 05-Jan-23 20:23:20

Great to see you have resurfaced GSM.
I thought you had fallen overboard in the Med somewhere! 😉

GrannyGravy13 Thu 05-Jan-23 20:23:33

Glorianny

OMG some of the posts on this thread are unbelievable. Isn't it time we got past the "Real men/soldiers don't talk about it" idea. Some people talk, some don't. Harry has a platform and has chosen to talk about his experiences and tell people. No one has the right to deny him that. There are hundreds of ex-service personnel who haven't been able to do that and who have severe problems because of what was done in the service of their country, many are alcoholics, many are homeless, many have no one to listen anyway. If reading this book makes even one person think about what is expected of young men and the damage they suffer, then Harry did well.

You are forgetting that at his rank and his job he would have signed the official secrets act.

OnwardandUpward Thu 05-Jan-23 20:25:34

Thank goodness our dear Queen never had to endure such lunacy from her DGS. God rest her soul.

So much ridiculousness. He's a sick man and not making good decisions.

Joseanne Thu 05-Jan-23 20:25:50

So is it OK for Harry & Meghan's ex staff to now speak out about their experiences?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 05-Jan-23 20:27:02

Glorianny

mokryna

The Taliban have a name now who has admitted what they have done. Where will he and his family be safe?

Funny isn't it one young woman denied the Taliban power and went to school. She was shot. She became a hero.
Perhaps she should have kept quiet and stayed home.
I can't believe there are people justifying the actions of terrorists. How low can you go???

Give over Glorianny nobody has justified terrorists on this thread.

What they have done is pointed out the bloody obvious, the target on his back and by proxy his wife and children has just got bigger. Every jihadist on the planet will now be after the big prize

Callistemon21 Thu 05-Jan-23 20:27:08

OMG some of the posts on this thread are unbelievable. Isn't it time we got past the "Real men/soldiers don't talk about it" idea

You know a lot of veterans, I take it, Glorianny.
🤔

Callistemon21 Thu 05-Jan-23 20:28:56

Glorianny

mokryna

The Taliban have a name now who has admitted what they have done. Where will he and his family be safe?

Funny isn't it one young woman denied the Taliban power and went to school. She was shot. She became a hero.
Perhaps she should have kept quiet and stayed home.
I can't believe there are people justifying the actions of terrorists. How low can you go???

Um, you seem to have taken a post, turned it round, inside out and made it mean something quite different, Glorianny.

And what you accuse posters of is appalling.

OnwardandUpward Thu 05-Jan-23 20:29:58

"I would like to get my father back, I would like to have my brother back," well I don't think they want you back Harry, you UTTER LOON

what you said *Smileless, that they hadn't brought shame on the RF, only on themselves is so true. No one in their right mind would trust these two goons.

Glorianny Thu 05-Jan-23 20:43:29

Callistemon21

^OMG some of the posts on this thread are unbelievable. Isn't it time we got past the "Real men/soldiers don't talk about it" idea^

You know a lot of veterans, I take it, Glorianny.
🤔

I know that there are veterans who are homeless and suffering Callistemon21, some of them because of their service experiences.
I know that mental health problems are sometimes the result of not talking about your experiences, partly because of a culture which says real men keep quiet. Which I suppose is what you are saying. If I knew real men who keep quiet I wouldn't think the way I do, well I bloody well would.

Blondiescot Thu 05-Jan-23 20:44:15

I haven't seen anything justifying terrorists. Yes, we should be encouraging veterans not to bottle up their trauma and seek help whenever possible, but that's a whole different scenario from speaking out like that and making yourself (and your family) a target.

Glorianny Thu 05-Jan-23 20:49:36

Callistemon21

Glorianny

mokryna

The Taliban have a name now who has admitted what they have done. Where will he and his family be safe?

Funny isn't it one young woman denied the Taliban power and went to school. She was shot. She became a hero.
Perhaps she should have kept quiet and stayed home.
I can't believe there are people justifying the actions of terrorists. How low can you go???

Um, you seem to have taken a post, turned it round, inside out and made it mean something quite different, Glorianny.

And what you accuse posters of is appalling.

I absolutely agree it is appalling. Someone speaks out and all people can say is "Oo now the Taliban will try to kill them"
Lots of schadenfreude on this thread.

JaneJudge Thu 05-Jan-23 20:52:03

security protocols are in place to protect people and our society as a whole confused I’m not sure how it’s unkind

I think he’s been foolish at best to publish this information

JaneJudge Thu 05-Jan-23 20:53:42

It is not even about just the Taliban, Glorianny. Have you ever had DV clearance? I’m just flabbergasted he is able to do this without legal consequence

GrannyGravy13 Thu 05-Jan-23 20:55:05

Glorianny

Callistemon21

Glorianny

mokryna

The Taliban have a name now who has admitted what they have done. Where will he and his family be safe?

Funny isn't it one young woman denied the Taliban power and went to school. She was shot. She became a hero.
Perhaps she should have kept quiet and stayed home.
I can't believe there are people justifying the actions of terrorists. How low can you go???

Um, you seem to have taken a post, turned it round, inside out and made it mean something quite different, Glorianny.

And what you accuse posters of is appalling.

I absolutely agree it is appalling. Someone speaks out and all people can say is "Oo now the Taliban will try to kill them"
Lots of schadenfreude on this thread.

I apologise for being rude to you Glorianny but you have no idea what you are talking about.

Callistemon21 Thu 05-Jan-23 20:57:31

Blondiescot

I haven't seen anything justifying terrorists. Yes, we should be encouraging veterans not to bottle up their trauma and seek help whenever possible, but that's a whole different scenario from speaking out like that and making yourself (and your family) a target.

Me neither, Blondiescot

And yes, veterans should speak of their trauma to those specialised in helping them process it. There is help available.

Glorianny I don't know how much work you do with veterans or supporting the charities designed to help them; perhaps you do, I don't know. But if it is only hearsay, please don't use that as an excuse to attack other posters.

Speaking of experiences to trained counsellors is one thing but using this as part of a continued attack on your family is foolish in the extreme.

I feel sorry for him because he does not seem to realise the impact his words will have on him and his own nuclear family.