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Harry has admitted to killing 25 people in Afghanistan.

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Sago Thu 05-Jan-23 16:13:42

Astonishing that he has announced this.
He has now put his wife, children and himself at serious risk not to mention all the other implications.

He is a silly immature and dangerous man.

varian Thu 05-Jan-23 21:02:31

I'm afraid Harry has always come across as a bit dim. I seem to remember a scandal about his A levels when he was at Eton.

He needed to pass two A levels to get into Sandhurst but there was evidence that his art teacher had helped him rather more than she should have done to get him a pass in A level art.

Iam64 Thu 05-Jan-23 21:07:30

Welcome back germanshepherd’s mum. We often take a different view but it’s always interesting to talk on various topics

I respect our military and acknowledge GrannyGravy’s family contribution to the armed services.

I’m tired of reading vicious, unkind, insensitive posts about Harry. He’s clearly been struggling for a long time. I feel sympathy for all the family, including Harry and Meghan. What a sad breakdown in relationships.

Dickens Thu 05-Jan-23 21:09:28

Germanshepherdsmum

Thanks Dickens.

flowers smile

GrannyGravy13 Thu 05-Jan-23 21:12:33

Iam64

Welcome back germanshepherd’s mum. We often take a different view but it’s always interesting to talk on various topics

I respect our military and acknowledge GrannyGravy’s family contribution to the armed services.

I’m tired of reading vicious, unkind, insensitive posts about Harry. He’s clearly been struggling for a long time. I feel sympathy for all the family, including Harry and Meghan. What a sad breakdown in relationships.

I totally agree that he has been struggling for many years.

I am in no way anti Harry, but I feel his comments regarding his kills in Afghanistan are so ill thought out and dangerous not only to his family but other military personnel who have not got the benefit of twenty four seven security.

Callistemon21 Thu 05-Jan-23 21:13:57

Germanshepherdsmum

Thanks Chestnut. I share your astonishment. I didn’t think he was the sharpest knife in the drawer but to expose your entire family, including the King, in this way beggars belief.

I missed your post Germanshepherdsmum
Hello and good to see you contributing again.

GladEye Thu 05-Jan-23 21:15:10

He just doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut does he. It must be carnage inside his head.

GladEye Thu 05-Jan-23 21:24:04

So he's now revealed to Al-Qaeda and the Taliban that he killed 25 of their comrades. It's common knowledge where he lives, he blabs about every movement he makes and because he stropped off from having the protection of the royal family, he and his family are sitting targets. He's a whole new level of stupid.

JaneJudge Thu 05-Jan-23 21:29:53

And he’s related to our head of state?

Hod help us all sad

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 05-Jan-23 21:43:05

Thanks Iam and Calli. Good to be back with you.

Dickens Thu 05-Jan-23 22:02:39

I feel sorry for him because he does not seem to realise the impact his words will have on him and his own nuclear family.

Perhaps we should step back a little and consider how we would feel if we had a grandson like Harry.

I believe he's immature, self-obsessed / absorbed, and doesn't have the intellectual capacity for genuine self-reflection.

I also think he - like his father - has not had a normal upbringing. How could he in that rarefied, royal, aristocratic environment. I still remember that photo of his father, Charles, as a 4-year old (or about that age) shaking hands with his mother after a long absence when she and Philip had been on tour for many months. For all the attempts of various pundits to promote various members of the RF from time to time as being "just like us normal people", they are not.

For a while, he was the darling of the media - our 'Jack-The-Lad' Prince. And then the media did what it does best - chronicled gleefully the inevitable downfall of their icon - because they know a large section of the public is focused on the royal family. And Harry, not having the critical ability to fully understand the media dynamics, their modus operandi, and not being astute enough to simply keep a dignified silence, gave the media the meat and drink for them to demonise him. Instead of thinking long and hard before embarking on his exposé, he went full tilt.

If he were my grandson, I'd want him to get help - the help of someone disinterested and completely impartial. I think it's all very sad, and rather depressing. However, I'm not invested emotionally in the royal family, I don't feel insulted on their behalf. I don't believe he'll 'bring down' the 'firm' or cause any major disruption to the institution of monarchy either - as the media hint and some believe. Harry is authoring his own downfall, but let's not pretend the media are not enjoying it, and milking, it for all it's worth and, in so doing, are perpetuating it. Harry is, I'm sure, aware of this, but does not have the emotional or mental capacity to deal with it effectively. He needs a friend, an honest friend - a guru / a counsellor... someone who cares enough about him to guide him. I am, of course, looking at him through the eyes of a grandmother who sees the folly of his actions but can only stand back and watch him fall further into the trap. I feel sorry for him.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 05-Jan-23 22:04:49

Dickens good post

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 05-Jan-23 22:06:29

Glorianny, nobody is saying that H should keep quiet about his experiences in Afghanistan, but talking so very publicly about the number of people he killed isn’t admirable. It puts his family and his former comrades, who don’t have personal security, in grave danger. He can speak publicly of his experiences without that level of detail, and he has a therapist to whom he can speak privately and confidentially about the details which endanger others. A ‘real man’, an officer and a gentleman, considers others above himself - as he is trained to do.

GladEye Thu 05-Jan-23 22:12:29

He needs a friend, an honest friend - a guru / a counsellor... someone who cares enough about him to guide him

Apparently he already has one of these. He has "a woman who claims to have powers and gives him sage advice" according to his book revelations. She sells snake oil too.

maddyone Thu 05-Jan-23 22:23:43

If this is the case, that Harry has claimed how many Taliban fighters he killed (I haven’t read the book and only discovered he has said this through Gransnet) then I feel he really does need security now. And so do his family. This confession has not been well thought out. I hope it’s not true that this is in the book, but I fear I may be wrong.

Callistemon21 Thu 05-Jan-23 22:24:58

GrannyGravy13

Dickens good post

Yes, which is more or less what many of us have been saying.

We feel sorry for him, he has lived life in the goldfish bowl, believe he needs help and can see him plunging headlong into a disaster which he is making worse every time he speaks and tries to justify himself.

Norah Thu 05-Jan-23 22:30:05

Could we please not profess to know Harry is dim or thick? He may be an indulged product of his upbringing. He may have finally crossed the Rubicon.

Dim and thick, are, for me, a step too hateful. FTR I'm RF neutral.

eazybee Thu 05-Jan-23 22:39:12

Harry carries the seeds of his own destruction within him, and hubris will bring him down.

Callistemon21 Thu 05-Jan-23 23:06:19

Norah

Could we please not profess to know Harry is dim or thick? He may be an indulged product of his upbringing. He may have finally crossed the Rubicon.

Dim and thick, are, for me, a step too hateful. FTR I'm RF neutral.

But he can't have seen this quotation:

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt"

OnwardandUpward Thu 05-Jan-23 23:13:04

Good post Dickens

Definitely Calistemon21 "It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt"

So sad and regrettable, like a runaway train.

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 05-Jan-23 23:13:19

The military Facebook pages are quite amusing (but I suppose you’ve got to understand the bleak nature of military humour). They’re calling him Brad Ditt (a ditt is a tale/story) and laughing about being knocked down by an RAF wally. And this….

nanna8 Thu 05-Jan-23 23:14:38

It just gets worse and worse. He has now put his whole family at risk. He really needs help and fast.

Callistemon21 Thu 05-Jan-23 23:15:39

Oh dear, I am cringeing for him; as someone said, imagine if it was your grandson (or son).

But that spoof tapestry is funny.

OnwardandUpward Thu 05-Jan-23 23:23:18

Yes the tapestry is funny.

But I don't have to imagine. My son is that ill (because of drugs) I am sad for them all. MH /paranoia is no joke and nor is estrangement.

It's awful, H really is a liability, which will force the RF to do Damage Limitation, when what he needs is a spell somewhere quiet and some professional help.

merlotgran Thu 05-Jan-23 23:23:45

I feel so sorry for Charles watching his son unravel on a world stage.

OnwardandUpward Thu 05-Jan-23 23:33:01

me too