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Harry has admitted to killing 25 people in Afghanistan.

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Sago Thu 05-Jan-23 16:13:42

Astonishing that he has announced this.
He has now put his wife, children and himself at serious risk not to mention all the other implications.

He is a silly immature and dangerous man.

OnwardandUpward Thu 05-Jan-23 23:35:03

Only difference is, mine isn't on a world stage as such but is banned from most social media sites because of the content he posts

GladEye Thu 05-Jan-23 23:35:15

Maybe the self confessed use of cocaine in his teenage years is to blame?

Kate1949 Thu 05-Jan-23 23:35:46

It's all so very sad.

OnwardandUpward Thu 05-Jan-23 23:36:23

Drugs change your mind forever, some worse than others. Very sad.

nanna8 Fri 06-Jan-23 03:46:18

You’d think his new mummy would help him , I would if he was my husband. His poor,poor children.

JaneJudge Fri 06-Jan-23 08:27:05

ExperiencedNotOld

The military Facebook pages are quite amusing (but I suppose you’ve got to understand the bleak nature of military humour). They’re calling him Brad Ditt (a ditt is a tale/story) and laughing about being knocked down by an RAF wally. And this….

that's funny smile

Iam64 Fri 06-Jan-23 08:31:43

Dickens - thanks for your post.
I’ve read the excerpt from the book that gives brief detail of the way their father told his sons about their mothers death. Harry acknowledges his memory isn’t absolutely clear but details the emotional content. Yet another trauma those boys lived with and continue to process.

rubysong Fri 06-Jan-23 08:32:22

Crikey, they were quick with that tapestry but they missed the necklace. Maybe they will add a few stray beads later.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 08:59:59

To be honest, it sounds like KC was kind and Fatherly, giving physical affection and verbal affection in breaking the news. I don't know of a better way to break bad news to a child.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 09:57:40

I saw part of an interview with one of PH’s military friends on ITV News who served alongside him he said

^ it’s like he’s in the mess on his 40th pint, absolutely hammered and nine of his mates are telling him to stop and go home^

He very much needs a loyal true friend, one who has known him a long time, without an agenda…

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 09:58:15

*nine should be none

Witzend Fri 06-Jan-23 10:09:24

pascal30

He's really set himself up for problems in the future now.. he'll never be safe again or free.. whoever advised him or edited this book also bears responsibility for whatever occurs in the future.
What a mess...

IMO whoever ‘advised’ him, or edited the book under publishers’ orders, was very likely reasoning that the more outrageous/crass/utterly distasteful revelations the better, since they would mean increased sales and therefore $$$$$.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 10:17:18

Well, it will end in tears.

halfpint1 Fri 06-Jan-23 10:40:20

Can it be that he is well miffed with his exclusion from all military ceremonial dress up that it's his revenge?I wonder if he needs some re-hab

Callistemon21 Fri 06-Jan-23 10:48:44

GrannyGravy13

I saw part of an interview with one of PH’s military friends on ITV News who served alongside him he said

^ it’s like he’s in the mess on his 40th pint, absolutely hammered and nine of his mates are telling him to stop and go home^

He very much needs a loyal true friend, one who has known him a long time, without an agenda…

it’s like he’s in the mess on his 40th pint, absolutely hammered and nine of his mates are telling him to stop and go home

Yes, spot on.
He does need help and he knows where to find it. The first step is to acknowledge that fact.

timetogo2016 Fri 06-Jan-23 10:57:38

Well he will be using his money on extra security.and he will need to the stupid man.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 10:58:24

Yes, he could do a 12 step programme like they use at AA to help him overcome his addiction to attention seeking and anything else he may be addicted to.

Glorianny Fri 06-Jan-23 11:01:10

So you all know that he isn't getting help. Amazing the insight some of you have into the private life of H&M whilst apparently swallowing the negative tabloid guff without question.

Why did he detail the numbers? I've no idea. Will it come as a surprise to those who might see him as a terrorist target-well I doubt it. Perhaps he is suffering, perhaps the negative effects of being sent to fight what was ultimately a useless war are still with him and he wants to be honest about what he did.

The perception of the military that you only talk about it if you are pissed and then you need to be told to shut up is so sad.

Yammy Fri 06-Jan-23 11:06:03

This was supposedly the Blue-eyed prince of the British public until he started to tell"His truth." I wonder how many back him now.
He has broken so many conventions with his revelations. Including Geneva which says that all people have to be treated as humans, not chess players as the Taliban were in his opinion.
Wouldn't any woman who saw or heard her husband in such a state advise getting help? Not open up to an American Ghost writer who would enjoy the sensationalism of it all and think of all the revenue it will bring in, in the USA. Where are his advisors telling him to tone it down?
I'm afraid he is one broken man/child and dread to think what he will reveal next.

Smileless2012 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:09:48

An insightful statement from that former colleague. What a shame Harry isn't in contact with him.

Smileless2012 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:14:16

I don't agree that that is the perception of the military Glorianny. Talk about your military experience by all means, but who has ever declared to the world, how many they killed?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:14:26

Glorianny

So you all know that he isn't getting help. Amazing the insight some of you have into the private life of H&M whilst apparently swallowing the negative tabloid guff without question.

Why did he detail the numbers? I've no idea. Will it come as a surprise to those who might see him as a terrorist target-well I doubt it. Perhaps he is suffering, perhaps the negative effects of being sent to fight what was ultimately a useless war are still with him and he wants to be honest about what he did.

The perception of the military that you only talk about it if you are pissed and then you need to be told to shut up is so sad.

I know many many serving personnel, they have NEVER EVER spoken of their kills pissed or otherwise.

As for being sent to fight in your words a useless war I politely suggest you show some respect…

I and my family have not got a perception of the military we have past and ongoing experience.

Glorianny Fri 06-Jan-23 11:22:34

GrannyGravy13

Glorianny

So you all know that he isn't getting help. Amazing the insight some of you have into the private life of H&M whilst apparently swallowing the negative tabloid guff without question.

Why did he detail the numbers? I've no idea. Will it come as a surprise to those who might see him as a terrorist target-well I doubt it. Perhaps he is suffering, perhaps the negative effects of being sent to fight what was ultimately a useless war are still with him and he wants to be honest about what he did.

The perception of the military that you only talk about it if you are pissed and then you need to be told to shut up is so sad.

I know many many serving personnel, they have NEVER EVER spoken of their kills pissed or otherwise.

As for being sent to fight in your words a useless war I politely suggest you show some respect…

I and my family have not got a perception of the military we have past and ongoing experience.

The perception of the military referred to the quote from one of Harry's comrades. It was exactly what was said but worded differently sorry if you don't like what he said.

Most wars now are fairly useless. The Afghan war was useless. That is no reflection on the people who fought, rather a criticism of the lack of foresight of governments. If you can explain to me quite what use it was I will consider withdrawing that remark. But until then it stands.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 11:25:52

I'm afraid that Harry has values that are not shared by the RF or people with his military experience. I am not sure where he got his values, but they are entirely at odds with normality and everything that is kind, right or wise.

I very much doubt that these are the views of someone who has benefitted from engaging with a therapist and "doing the work". It has always been much more convenient to blame everyone except yourself in the "It's everyone elses fault but mine" school of thought and to continue to be a victim in the " I don't want help, I want attention" academy, where the consequences of your own actions are not considered because nothing is "your fault". It's a deluded place that no one who has "done the work" in therapy inhabits.

Anyone can "waa waa" like a baby, we all learned to do that when we were born. It has always been easier to "waa waa" than do the hard work, but you cannot do the hard work and still behave like that. Growth is a choice.

I could name a few other adults who make decisions without considering the consequences, but for H its a disaster.

Grantanow Fri 06-Jan-23 11:26:38

A stupid revelation likely to inflame terrorists against UK personnel. Self-aggrandizing and making cash at serious risk to others. Ought to be court martialed.