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Harry sensationally accuses camilla

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lemsip Thu 05-Jan-23 21:13:02

Prince Harry has sensationally accused Camilla of plotting to marry Charles, take the Crown and of leaking stories to the press in his bombshell memoir, MailOnline can reveal today.

In an extraordinary passage in his explosive autobiography, titled Spare, the Duke of Sussex writes: 'Shortly after our private meetings with her, she began to develop her long-term strategy, a campaign directed at marriage and with time, the Crown (with the blessing of our father, we supposed).

'News stories started appearing in all the newspapers about her conversations with Willy, stories which recounted lots of small details, none of which came from my brother, of course.'

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 10:20:15

He probably has the privilege of having a therapist on tap, but he obviously has not engaged in a meaningful way with anyone who could advise him well about building healthy relationships for the future, which is incredibly sad for him and his descendants, whose future well being he seems to have no thought for.

Baggs Fri 06-Jan-23 10:20:24

Being Royal but not needed must be an intolerable position

Princess Anne doesn't seem to have found it intolerable. Nor Edward.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 10:21:40

Why? You get all of the privileges without the responsibility!

Glorianny Fri 06-Jan-23 10:30:53

Of course they wanted her to have a crown. Does anyone seriously doubt that once Charles had managed to chuck Diana this was his entire aim, or that what Charles wants he gets? As for the leak, of course she didn't do it herself, she just made sure one of the staff did it for her.

The only thing Charles had to do was to make sure the negative stories in the press died down and they were able to change Camilla's image from the adulteress who destroyed his marriage, to the loyal supporter he always needed ,and fortunately his mother lived long enough for them to manage that.
Does no one remember the time when there were headlines, and most people thought him unfit to be king, and wanted the crown to pass straight to William?
Had he inherited then he might possibly have become like the Duke of Windsor.

Sparklefizz Fri 06-Jan-23 10:31:49

It's now obvious, from his own mouth, that Harry has been incredibly jealous of William from day one. One of his complaints apparently is that William got a bigger bedroom than him at Balmoral - I mean, honestly, he sounds about 7 not a grown man. Sibling jealousy and rivalry, nothing to do with "the heir and spare" as he likes to make out, but plain old basic sibling rivalry found in families across the world.... only most children grow out of it, and it seems that Harry never has.

Calendargirl Fri 06-Jan-23 10:35:38

I would think that bad mouthing his step mother is one of the worst things Harry could do if he hopes to reconcile with his father eventually.

We can all see how much Charles adores Camilla. If push comes to shove, Harry would be the loser.

Charles will always put Camilla first.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 10:36:36

Oh dear. a bigger bedroom ! shock Who cares?

Yes, this is not about the bigger bedroom , but about Sibling Rivalry which has lead to hatred and not been dealt with properly. Such a child!

Franbern Fri 06-Jan-23 10:40:39

As a life-time republican I have not taken any interest, nor watched anything to do with the royal family. Do not even bother to waste time watching 'The Crown' - would just like to see all of them become normal untitled citizens.

Obviously have been totally unable to avoid hearing about this latest ook, even before it is actually on sale in this country.

Does strike me as very, very sad. I have five adult children - and over the fifty plus years they have been in the world there have been arguements, and fall-outs mostly verbal, some more physical. Some of them seem (to me) have some very strange 'memories' and/or interpretations of events when they were children.

However, on the whole we now all get along pretty well, and careabout each other and the younger generation all enjoy knowing their cousins.

I would be totally devastated if any of them ever got anyhting published which details those old family fall-outs both real and imagined.

Upto now I just thought of Harry as being a bit of drama queen, wanting to keep in the limelight, but with this book he has fallen to very low. Obviously, the fame and publicity is so much more important to him that family relationships.

Whatever the truth or not of what he has had written in this book, no detailing of family squabbles should have been made in public.

As for his boasting of having murdered 25 times..>>>Well......I am speechless (not usual for me!!!!_

Rosina Fri 06-Jan-23 10:47:17

Harry says Charles apparently asked his sons not to make his last years a misery. Well done there.

volver Fri 06-Jan-23 10:47:44

maddyone smile

bluebird243 Fri 06-Jan-23 10:50:38

Sounds like another brain fried by drugs taken in early years and irreparably damages the brain and thought processes. Harry is acting a lot like someone I know [similar age] who terrorises his family, is spoilt, entitled, always 'special', never does anything wrong. Like a big child.
This person has made his sister's life a misery, is a bully. He charms her, then when a tiny piece of trust is gained then uses verbal abuse to control her. It's how he treats everyone friends/family/relationships.
I've never thought Harry was a 'lovable chump' personally. I saw something sly and angry. Now he has a target on his back and he's burned all his bridges. it will not end well. I think he's put his children in danger. The bloke's a complete idiot.

timetogo2016 Fri 06-Jan-23 10:53:45

He`s a cure for insomnia.
All families have issues,but they don`t tell the world.
I just hope he stays in the USA with his "me myself and i wife".

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 10:56:42

bluebird243

Sounds like another brain fried by drugs taken in early years and irreparably damages the brain and thought processes. Harry is acting a lot like someone I know [similar age] who terrorises his family, is spoilt, entitled, always 'special', never does anything wrong. Like a big child.
This person has made his sister's life a misery, is a bully. He charms her, then when a tiny piece of trust is gained then uses verbal abuse to control her. It's how he treats everyone friends/family/relationships.
I've never thought Harry was a 'lovable chump' personally. I saw something sly and angry. Now he has a target on his back and he's burned all his bridges. it will not end well. I think he's put his children in danger. The bloke's a complete idiot.

This is how I feel about my Estranged son, sadly. Drugs change the brain permanently. It's so sad.

bluebird243 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:06:04

Yes, it's a real problem and it is the cause of a lot of mental health problems.
I also know a female who is very irrational and paranoid due to just cannabis use.
I think Harry has used far more than he is has admitted to. Sorry you are estranged from your son OnwardandUpward

pigsmayfly. Fri 06-Jan-23 11:20:31

I think it’s important to remember these are Harry’s problems; not ours. He has all the resources needed to find the support he needs. We, on the other hand, have to deal with our problems, without sharing them on a global scale. It’s important to know what else is going on in the world, apart from Harry and Meghan. There needs to be a balance here. I think I saw 7 articles about M and H and yet our NHS is dying but this is not mentioned

Sparklefizz Fri 06-Jan-23 11:20:46

I think Harry has used far more than he is has admitted to

Well, he's admitted to marijuana, magic mushrooms and cocaine so far .... plus he was a very heavy drinker at one time.

Baggs Fri 06-Jan-23 11:22:16

pigsmayfly.

I think it’s important to remember these are Harry’s problems; not ours. He has all the resources needed to find the support he needs. We, on the other hand, have to deal with our problems, without sharing them on a global scale. It’s important to know what else is going on in the world, apart from Harry and Meghan. There needs to be a balance here. I think I saw 7 articles about M and H and yet our NHS is dying but this is not mentioned

I am seeing plenty of articles about the NHS.

Grantanow Fri 06-Jan-23 11:24:23

Just another over-entitled baby whining. Boring.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 11:34:33

bluebird243

Yes, it's a real problem and it is the cause of a lot of mental health problems.
I also know a female who is very irrational and paranoid due to just cannabis use.
I think Harry has used far more than he is has admitted to. Sorry you are estranged from your son OnwardandUpward

Thanks and unfortunately drugs have played their part in his estrangement due to his growing antagonism against us, huge mounting paranoia and drug trips in which he claims to have "seen us" doing things we shouldn't have (!) How can you argue with a trick of the mind caused by hallucinatory drugs?! I did see an article where Harry mentioned magic mushrooms and cocaine, but who knows what is true anymore.

The only good that can come of this is perhaps a greater awareness of drugs and estrangement that can only be a help and support. I think in the past many parents have been judged for having estranged kids with the view of "Oh if only they had loved them more!", which I find really sad. I could not have loved my kids more! The only thing I have done is be too soft, too nice, too kind... and nothing is ever enough when you are dealing with a child who has taken drugs who believes what the drug trip has "shown" them.

People in my RL do know about the estrangement and no doubt I'm harshly judged by some who don't know the whole story, because I choose not to tell it in RL.

Ailidh Fri 06-Jan-23 11:44:11

I always had the smallest bedroom as a child. I did query it once, because they really were box rooms, but when my mother pointed out that while my brothers' room was indeed much bigger, it was also shared, so I had the better deal, I was instantly reconciled.

I think the comparative size of my childhood sleeping accommodation is the only thing I share with Harry.

Boz Fri 06-Jan-23 11:44:42

I distinctly remember an interview with Harry where he praised Camilla as 'a very nice woman'. I expect the wicked stepmother remark was a joke the American ghostwriter didn't get.

ParlorGames Fri 06-Jan-23 11:52:30

confused If everyone stops listening to him and reading his over fantasised comments might he actually shut up and go away??

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 11:56:29

It would be nice, but I think he feels entitled to "attention".

lemsip Fri 06-Jan-23 11:58:54

ParlorGames

confused If everyone stops listening to him and reading his over fantasised comments might he actually shut up and go away??

well of course he won't, he's doing it for much needed money. he's getting very well paid!

AGAA4 Fri 06-Jan-23 12:08:01

Putting himself and his family in danger is the worst thing he has done imo. He has made them a target for some very vengeful factions.