Harry sensationally accuses camilla

I have not and will not read his book.
Imagine basically prostituting your whole family by selling scandal, just for money? Did they make you trade your heroes for ghosts?

I had 2 sons, one of whom was jealous of the other when younger. I saw it as normal sibling rivalry between 2 males quite close in age. As he matured he could see that I did not favour one above the other, but treated [and loved] them equally. There were advantages and disadvantages of being the elder or younger which he saw. But he grew up.

One though had the larger bedroom and one had the smaller. We all decided it was fair if they swapped bedrooms every now and then and we had fun doing that. So each got a turn to have the biggest until they were out a great deal of the time and weren't indoors a lot.

Neither has trashed their brother day in day out on the media, or petulantly cut their children off from the others. And have chosen their wives well after a long time of getting to know them.

Two damaged, entitled, spiteful people with personality disorders who [often quickly] get together [eg. H and M] often means big trouble for everyone who is in the firing line...as history has shown over and over again.

The more that comes out the sadder I feel. I honestly could not give a hoot about H&M but I do feel for those who cannot speak up. I think it’s right to say nothing, they shouldn’t feed the trolls. Those supporting these horrible people fail to justify why it is necessary to try to take down your family. It is a dreadful and shameful thing to do. I don’t think they’d have the brass neck to come back here, imagine the boos and eggs they’d get if they did. I can’t see them braving it, surely they know how many of us feel?

It's not ok to try and take down your family, especially as the actions were calculated to damage (and put them in danger)

Most of us, if we had decided to estrange could simply do that and if we kept our mouths shut except for getting anon support online, we could avoid doing our families too much damage.

I'm sad about estrangement that has happened, but I know sometimes it's just too painful to go on. To withdraw, either for a time or not is completely different to calculatedly doing something that is sure to damage, maim (emotionally) or even kill (get someone killed)

If Harry is so obsessed about being a second son and has such an inferiority complex, no wonder he could not hold onto a girlfriend for long. My sister had a boyfriend years ago, it was “poor me” continuously, thank goodness it didn’t last.

The Harry and Meghan saga could not have been worse if they planned it - perhaps it was planned, his revenge on the family he despised, the controversial wedding onwards.

Now he has started making accusations about Camilla which are entirely his own thoughts, I don’t see any way back now, it’s all too personal and vindictive.

I hear you OnwardandUpward
I have a close frond who is estranged and she doesn’t even know why. She cannot do anything to rectify when she down not know what the issue is. It all went Pete tong when her son met a person. There had been a recent significant bereavement. After much upset and counselling she has decided not to beat herself up and to protect herself has withdrawn from the contest (as it appears to be). She’s so much better for making this decision even though she misses her beloved son. Sometimes there is no solution. Harry has created a situation which cannot be resolved, that’s so sad.

You're right Katie59

That's so sad Nanatoone . That can happen if the new partner does not like the parents or family. I've heard of lies being made up to separate the parents and their child by the new partner.

I don't see any way for a future for Harry and his family to resolve this, either.

How apt that, at the moment, the thread immediately under this one in 'Last Day' is Aggressive Adult Children.

I think Harry has, been encouraged (brainwashed ) to get it out of his system .we all know who by,and is doing more harm than good to himself.
Charles has always loved Camilla.so it was obvious they would marry,she has always kept her mouth shut ,and caused no problems since they have been together.and the Queen must have approved to want her to be Queen Consort.
Harry has never looked more unhappy than he does now since marrying
Narcissists like Meghan eventually separate their partner from their family ,she has disowned her own .now she wants Harry to be for her only
I'm afraid their is no coming back from this for Harry and feel so sorry for his father and William ,and Catherine

BlueBelle

Surely there’s a similarity between him and his mother, she also did things that pointed to mental health issues, eating problems, depression, supposedly falling downstairs for attention, hiding in car boots to meet blokes and definitely talking more and more freely as time went by. she became increasingly dangerous to the royal family
Harry from his body language is incredibly needy and fell in love with someone equally needy (neither can bear to not have the reassurance of holding hands for a nano second)
Unfortunately Harry was always in his brothers shadow and like many siblings played the fool to get attention Princess Margaret (also as the spare) got into more and more trouble as the years went on
Being Royal but not needed must be an intolerable position but Harry has made the mistake of shouting about it if they had disappeared to bring their family up as a normal family all would have been well he hasn’t, and unfortunately he and his family will pay a price

I think his mental health is in big danger if tipping over

His father did. Charles did an interview with Jonathan Dimbleby in the early 90s where he said his parents were distant and he was having affair with Camilla Parker Bowles. Harry also had to share his grief for his mum to the world by walking behind her coffin.

veejay

I think Harry has, been encouraged (brainwashed ) to get it out of his system .we all know who by,and is doing more harm than good to himself.
Charles has always loved Camilla.so it was obvious they would marry,she has always kept her mouth shut ,and caused no problems since they have been together.and the Queen must have approved to want her to be Queen Consort.
Harry has never looked more unhappy than he does now since marrying
Narcissists like Meghan eventually separate their partner from their family ,she has disowned her own .now she wants Harry to be for her only
I'm afraid their is no coming back from this for Harry and feel so sorry for his father and William ,and Catherine

Camilla didn't cause any problems. She made Diana's life a misery.

Despite all the smiles and kissing of cheeks in public, William and Harry were never going to like Camilla.

Kate1949

Despite all the smiles and kissing of cheeks in public, William and Harry were never going to like Camilla.

That is so true and it must also feel strange that the only reason your dad was able to marry her was your mum died. He was very young when.he did that interview saying he liked Camilla so could have been pushed into it.

veejay

I think Harry has, been encouraged (brainwashed ) to get it out of his system .we all know who by,and is doing more harm than good to himself.
Charles has always loved Camilla.so it was obvious they would marry,she has always kept her mouth shut ,and caused no problems since they have been together.and the Queen must have approved to want her to be Queen Consort.
Harry has never looked more unhappy than he does now since marrying
Narcissists like Meghan eventually separate their partner from their family ,she has disowned her own .now she wants Harry to be for her only
I'm afraid their is no coming back from this for Harry and feel so sorry for his father and William ,and Catherine

The main is that little Archie and Lillibet have a good life. They're clearly very loved by their parents and Doria who seems so much nicer than Camilla.

WellsRose. Exactly. It all worked out very nicely for Charles and Camilla. I am always surprised when people say Diana was at fault. Her husband was in love with someone else when they married. She was a breeding machine. Poor girl.

I wouldn't say it worked out Nicely, but they must be relieved to be together. It must be hard for the boys to accept Camilla, given the circumstances. Perhaps W has had therapy as he did advise H to have it.

Yes, I have always felt sorry for Diana as she was so young and must have thought it was true love. Who can possibly know at age 20 that a love is fake? Especially in those days without the internet or a knowledge of red flags! I certainly did not understand at the same age about an abusive man I was involved with.

OnwardandUpward

I wouldn't say it worked out Nicely, but they must be relieved to be together. It must be hard for the boys to accept Camilla, given the circumstances. Perhaps W has had therapy as he did advise H to have it.

Yes, I have always felt sorry for Diana as she was so young and must have thought it was true love. Who can possibly know at age 20 that a love is fake? Especially in those days without the internet or a knowledge of red flags! I certainly did not understand at the same age about an abusive man I was involved with.

I really respected the Queen and I used to really like the monarchy but after the way he treated Diana, his very dodgy friends and the way he spoke to staff about the pen (imagine what he's like behind closed doors), it makes me feel sad Charles is King.

Doria who seems so much nicer than Camilla

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How on earth can you come to that conclusion? Have you met both Doria and Camilla?

No, thought not.

WellsRose. I meant in talking to the press
I agree Diana had a miserable life knowing Charles really loved Camilla.but he was pushed into it.his choice would have been Camilla..he didn't want to marry Diana
The talking about the Taliban was just stupid.
I believe Charles and William have spoken to someone regarding this in the army,who say they are very disappointed in Harry.also that he never killed anyone
It was sad for all of them.

I am pleased things have changed and the Royals can now choose who they marry.but it hasn't done Harry any good.he did rush into it.William tried to make him see sense and wait.so did Diana's brother apparently.
I imagine it's hard for the children to see their mother replaced in any family

Charles was , we are told, in love with Camilla from their first relationship and the relationship never cooled.

The press didn’t speak of it for some years, but we read about Kanga Tryon.

Charles dated Sarah Spencer, why didn’t she tell her younger sister about Camilla ?

'Harry has never looked more sad and unhappy than he does now since marrying'.

I agree with you.

he now says that he wasn't really best man at william's wedding, it was all for show! well isn't any wedding 'a show'
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he really needs to put a sock in it

He has so many mental issues and seems to be getting worse! What is his agenda, or should I say Meghan’s? They are not deluded and people are not really interested in hearing their pathetic tittle tattle. The Royal family are a normal family behind closed doors, when they are in the public eye they are ‘The Firm’ and are just getting on with their job. Enough is enough.

MaizieD

Well, at least I don't have to read the book with you lot analysing every little detail as it appears!

Agree. Between GN and MN I feel I have read the book!

If he wasn’t best man for his brother who was ?

Just because he is controversial doesn`t mean he has mental health issues. On the other hand, having to walk behind his mother`s coffin with no-one to hold his hand and, I suspect not many cuddles after would leave him damaged.