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Harry sensationally accuses camilla

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lemsip Thu 05-Jan-23 21:13:02

Prince Harry has sensationally accused Camilla of plotting to marry Charles, take the Crown and of leaking stories to the press in his bombshell memoir, MailOnline can reveal today.

In an extraordinary passage in his explosive autobiography, titled Spare, the Duke of Sussex writes: 'Shortly after our private meetings with her, she began to develop her long-term strategy, a campaign directed at marriage and with time, the Crown (with the blessing of our father, we supposed).

'News stories started appearing in all the newspapers about her conversations with Willy, stories which recounted lots of small details, none of which came from my brother, of course.'

Glorianny Mon 09-Jan-23 11:45:47

Anniebach

He did not, he said ‘when the marriage had broken down’. So no different to Diana with Barry Manakee and James Hewitt.

Except Diana wasn't someone who would be head of the C of E. Was 12 years younger and had been treated appallingly,

Kate1949 Mon 09-Jan-23 11:49:11

Well said Glorianny.

Anniebach Mon 09-Jan-23 11:58:49

Yes, and the two could easily meet up at shoots and hunts , did Anne continue a relationship with Andrew Parker Bowles, he is godfather to one of her children.

Katie59 Mon 09-Jan-23 12:30:09

Charles was also visiting Camilla at other venues Andrew PBs fellow officers were commenting on the liaison at the time. They viewed as pretty bad form that the Prince of Wales was visiting the wife of a fellow officer.
Charles was and is Colonel in Chief of the Household Cavalry

Glorianny Mon 09-Jan-23 12:34:22

Anniebach

Yes, and the two could easily meet up at shoots and hunts , did Anne continue a relationship with Andrew Parker Bowles, he is godfather to one of her children.

There are stories that her relationship did continue after they were both married. Her first marriage did end in divorce (and so did his)

Jaberwok Mon 09-Jan-23 12:38:09

All this banging on about the C of E!! I would have thought all you clever, highly educated academics on here would realise that the C of E was founded on Adultery, Divorce, Remarriage and Legitimacy . Had it not been for the first head of this church (Henry V111th) we could possibly still be a Catholic country via the Stuart dynasty. Who knows! As it is we are where we are with the C of E, warts and all, including the crowning of a divorced king, (George 1st) so quite frankly any moralising about Charles is rather hypocritical.

OnwardandUpward Mon 09-Jan-23 12:46:30

Diana was still in her prime when she realised she would never be enough for KC.

Not because she had done anything wrong or failed in any way, but simply because of his enduring love for C.
Perhaps she was reacting in hurt and trying to show him, perhaps thinking he would reconsider- or just lashing out at the RF. Either way, it didn't do any good.

grannyrebel7 Mon 09-Jan-23 12:53:06

I just hope they can all reconcile and move on from this. Doesn't look very like atm.

grannyrebel7 Mon 09-Jan-23 12:53:27

Likely

OnwardandUpward Mon 09-Jan-23 13:01:32

Well, they have therapists on speed dial so they have more chance than some of us.

Daisymae Mon 09-Jan-23 13:42:58

OnwardandUpward

Well, they have therapists on speed dial so they have more chance than some of us.

I would think that bad or inappropriate counselling is worse than none at all. Certainly it wouldn't be a bad idea for Harry et al to consider what they have gained by being born into the royal family. There are worse fates.

Jaberwok Mon 09-Jan-23 15:00:51

The very latest is that Harry has compassion and sympathy for Camilla! His narrative changes by the hour, hard to know what he means. The RF apparently are not racist and they adore Lady Hussey., Surely that award for fighting racism inside the RF should be returned, as the RF are now not racist?

Callistemon21 Mon 09-Jan-23 15:03:56

Joseanne

No, I think * Zoejory* and * Tickingbird* just wanted to clear up any confusion because there was actually a time where Meghan and Kate, not The Queen, were seen smiling together at Wimbledon. They were right to swiftly correct the mistake.

Yes, they looked as if they got on really well together.

I found a picture in a book someone gave me of Charles and Diana with a very young Harry, all looking very happy together. William is wandering off somewhere in the background, exploring the garden.

Joseanne Mon 09-Jan-23 15:07:00

Yet what Harry said last night would now squash that idea, because he pretty much said Kate and Meghan never got on from day one.

OnwardandUpward Mon 09-Jan-23 15:07:54

Harry has sympathy for Camilla? Probably because only a few days earlier he was accusing her of leaking stories to the press (and someone has probably pointed out to him how upset he has made her!)

rubysong Mon 09-Jan-23 15:35:07

H makes these sweeping statements, " Camilla leaking stories to the press", but doesn't appear to give actual examples. What were the stories, were they harmful to anyone? Why didn't the interviewer challenge him a bit more for actual examples?

Katie59 Mon 09-Jan-23 16:05:48

He is saying what ever comes into his head prompted by whoever is his publicity consultant, the more controversial his outpourings the more publicity the book and film gets.

It’s the price he pays, “ he who pays the piper calls the tune”.

OnwardandUpward Mon 09-Jan-23 16:20:43

either that or KC has given him a dressing down (in private of course) about his comments about Camilla.

Calendargirl Mon 09-Jan-23 17:39:32

Maybe whoever is advising him (badly) has finally said.

“Look, it’s no use banging on about reconciliation when you are dissing your father’s much loved wife. Perhaps a bit of back tracking would go down better…..”

25Avalon Mon 09-Jan-23 18:22:24

DM says Camilla has broken cover and been seen in Balmoral.
Presumably a dangerous woman is at large!

OnwardandUpward Mon 09-Jan-23 20:06:14

I should think Camilla is pretty upset, understandably.

M0nica Tue 10-Jan-23 09:00:05

All Prince Harry's interviews are with people who are entirely on his side, so that there will be no searching questions challenging anything he says. which is, of course, exactly what he wants.

However, he and his American advisors, obviously thought that if he thoroughly spilt the beans, dredged up and revealed every petty perceived wrong and lots of private details of the RF's lives, sooner or later they would be goaded into response, and that would make Prince Harry and his acolytes even richer.

Unfortunately, that is not how it works in the UK, the RF are saying nothing, long may they do it, and all that has happened is that Prince Harry has lost support in the UK. Latest surveys show the majority of people in the UK have no interest in him, or are bored and fed up by him, and even in the States interest is waning.

OnwardandUpward Tue 10-Jan-23 09:20:38

That is also my modus operandi since my son got verbally abusive.

I have lost count of how many times I have apologised for things I did wrong (and percieved wrongs) and I have lost count of the times he has been plain cruel because he has not forgiven me and is determined to make me suffer. If you have a hostile family member who is determined to keep making you suffer for things you've already apologised for, then you're better off going No contact, because until their mindset changes, the situation won't.

I don't know why some people assume that Charles hasn't already apologised or that the situation hasn't already been aired in private. As I am well aware, the introduction of drugs to bad MH and the wrong advice can be quite disastrous to relationships. I don't know why some people assume that parents haven't already done their best to repair a relationship. Who wouldn't?

Smileless2012 Tue 10-Jan-23 09:35:57

It suits some to assume that when there's estrangement it's always the fault of the parents and the dysfunctional family in which the EAC was raised Onwardsad.

OnwardandUpward Tue 10-Jan-23 09:43:23

Yes Smileless sad

It has always been easy to assume, but we are all someone's child or someone's parent.

How many times should you keep on apologising when the apology is not accepted? How much abuse should you take, as a parent when you realise your child is doing cruel things on purpose because they cannot forgive?

If you apologise to someone and then the same thing keeps being used against you, your apology meant nothing. None of us are parent of the year. None of us can pop them back in our tummies for another go. None of the hatred has any point. If only they can find a way of letting go of the hatred, perhaps it won't affect their own parenting too much.

Every generation thinks they will do better than the last, yet every generation fails. It is the Human Condition.