A certain book

Smileless2012 I can only repeat what I originally said and add this. It's not just newspapers or magazines, the character assassination of individuals is relentless. It's not merely the online version of printed matter. Whilst looking at totally unrelated websites, Small windows appear to the side of my screen entitled with suggestions of Harry's wife's further unpleasant behaviour. This pushing of an agenda happened constantly in the lead-up to Brexit. Money is made by picking a divisive issue and sliding these windows in place in the hope of cash per click. Subliminal advertising was outlawed many years ago. Subliminal character destruction is alive and well and making a killing. You cite discrepancies in their statements. What do you think your life narrative would look like in the hands of an organised assault.

Norah

Germanshepherdsmum

I very much doubt that a security expert would be employed for fifty years if they didn’t keep up to date.

Indeed. Their security firm will have the best methods.

The security firm will have already changed things to thwart problems. We change code on gates and doors, internet passwords monthly (or as needed), surely people accomplishing security as a job do more than we do?

Dai Davies only works as a consultant now and spends more time giving after dinner speeches and talks on cruises. He seems to be a bit of a publicity seeker, having previously spoken about Diana's death (she wouldn't have died if I'd been in Paris) and M&H's move to Canada (their security will cost millions and there have been attempts on Harry www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/former-head-royal-security-reveals-17562914)
So all he is doing is trying to get a few more speaking invites.

Nobody would use his services as a consultant if he wasn’t up to date. And if he earns money by giving speeches after a lifetime’s work, good for him. It would be an interesting subject for many.

Germanshepherdsmum

Nobody would use his services as a consultant if he wasn’t up to date. And if he earns money by giving speeches after a lifetime’s work, good for him. It would be an interesting subject for many.

You can be a consultant on one area of security without being aware of all the technological advances. It is possible now to pinpoint individuals and map the building they inhabit. For the most part it's governments who do it, but not all governments are friendly and nothing is impenetrable. A determined hacker could gain access.

Of course he's welcome to make speeches.

Clearly you know about his expertise Glorianny. Is he a consultant on only one area of security?

I'm not sure why you have posted several disparaging remarks about this man, Glorianny.
Do you know him personally?

Or do you work in the same field?

I'm curious.

Dai Davies: former Head of Royal Protection and a former Divisional Commander in the Metropolitan Police

🤔 not just any old security person, then!

Callistemon21

Dai Davies: former Head of Royal Protection and a former Divisional Commander in the Metropolitan Police

🤔 not just any old security person, then!

Indeed.

Many people do consult/ give speeches after they retire. Why? People respect their knowledge and problem solving ability.

Indeed Callistemon and Norah.

It is very difficult for the average Jamaican to access the beach in their own country surrounded by some of the most beautiful ocean water in the world

I’m sorry but this is rubbish. I’ve been to Jamaica and Jamaicans are all over the beaches. There may be some of the large, deluxe hotels with private beaches and that’s to ensure tourists can sunbathe without being relentlessly pestered. Nothing whatsoever to do with colonialism and Jamaica is full of American tourists and many other Europeans.

Ridiculous to suggest Jamaicans can’t access the beaches.

I've no idea what my life narrative would look like in the hands of an organised assault crazygran but had I experienced it, I wouldn't have visited the same unpleasant experience on my own family for money or any other reason.

tickingbird

^It is very difficult for the average Jamaican to access the beach in their own country surrounded by some of the most beautiful ocean water in the world^

I’m sorry but this is rubbish. I’ve been to Jamaica and Jamaicans are all over the beaches. There may be some of the large, deluxe hotels with private beaches and that’s to ensure tourists can sunbathe without being relentlessly pestered. Nothing whatsoever to do with colonialism and Jamaica is full of American tourists and many other Europeans.

Ridiculous to suggest Jamaicans can’t access the beaches.

Of course it is to do with colonialism. Why do you think EU countries (with the possible exception of Italy) have open access to their beaches where anyone can pester anyone else, and Jamaica needs to protect tourists?

As far as Dai Davies is concerned he does seem to comment on the RF a lot. Perhaps most important for Harry were his comments on the anniversary of Diana's death.

'I remember her saying to me when I first took command back in the mid 90s, "you poor man, do you know what you've taken on?"

'And I can honestly say, having been a street cop most of my life, that when I went into this particular role, I simply did not know I was walking into a civil war.

'A civil war, it really was, between her husband and herself.'

That's the civil war Harry grew up in

It’s very difficult to pick out the worst ‘revelations’ in the book, as there are just so many, but one very distasteful account from H’s school days stuck out for me.

He mentioned that although there were some matrons at his school who he and his friends fancied, there was one who they most definitely didn’t.
He then proceeded to describe Pat’s physical appearance, from a miserable face, greasy hair, a ‘deviated spine’ and knee problems which caused her to walk downstairs in a strange manner.
Harry apparently caused much mirth among his friends by mimicking her walk.

Now we all know that children can be very cruel, but there was absolutely no need for him to, effectively, still be taunting this poor woman by rehashing it all in his book. He’s a grown man for god’s sake.
Even if he changed the name, from the description of her problems, I’m sure the matron would recognise herself.

All this from a man who professes to be all about kindness and compassion for others.
He’s a disgrace.

As far as Dai Davies is concerned he does seem to comment on the RF a lot

Perhaps because he was Head of Royal Protection?

I agree about the Ludgrove matron bit JenniferEccles. Very nasty and should never have been included.
How did you think Eton came out of it? I am amazed there has not been more comment about that.

I read it, scored myself a download copy so no standing in lines here.
glad I didnt have to line up for it cos it was garbage, read like it was written by a 12 year old, a very immature 12 year old
so why did I read it..... well because I am just too curious for my own good

JenniferEccles Now we all know that children can be very cruel, but there was absolutely no need for him to, effectively, still be taunting this poor woman by rehashing it all in his book. He’s a grown man for god’s sake.
Even if he changed the name, from the description of her problems, I’m sure the matron would recognise herself.

That is indeed shocking and downright unpleasant.

Did anyone else read the school sections and immediately think of Roald Dahl's autobiographical writing?

As an adult, to talk about someone's 'deviated spine' and knee problems which would probably have been due to their spine, is very cruel and immature.

I might buy it from a charity shop just for curiosity but I’m not spending good money on the hardback. I don’t like the idea of making money from the royal family

I’m not surprised at a child mocking someone, they are cruel. But for a grown man to write about it is disgraceful.

Of course it is to do with colonialism. Why do you think EU countries (with the possible exception of Italy) have open access to their beaches where anyone can pester anyone else, and Jamaica needs to protect tourists?

Nothing whatsoever to do with colonialism. There are many resorts around the world where the deluxe hotels have a part of the beach only their guests can use. There’s at least one in Cyprus. Jamaican has miles and miles of beautiful beaches and Jamaicans are all over them - selling items, working on them, chatting to tourists. It’s an absolute nonsense to state Jamaicans can’t access their own beaches. If tourism stopped in Jamaica their economy would suffer massively.

I think it is part of an autobiography to write about the bad things you have done as well as the good and it obviously gives context to behaviour in the school at the time.
What he, the ghostwriter and particularly the editors should have spotted is the potential impact on the person concerned. I read that one of his schoolmates posted her name on Twitter; that should have been foreseen.
This is why I am interested by what people think the book tells us of the ethos of the schools concerned at the time. These out of context snippets are no way to judge.

tickingbird

^Of course it is to do with colonialism. Why do you think EU countries (with the possible exception of Italy) have open access to their beaches where anyone can pester anyone else, and Jamaica needs to protect tourists?^

Nothing whatsoever to do with colonialism. There are many resorts around the world where the deluxe hotels have a part of the beach only their guests can use. There’s at least one in Cyprus. Jamaican has miles and miles of beautiful beaches and Jamaicans are all over them - selling items, working on them, chatting to tourists. It’s an absolute nonsense to state Jamaicans can’t access their own beaches. If tourism stopped in Jamaica their economy would suffer massively.

You do realise that Cyprus was part of the British Empire and under British Military Occupation for many years don't you? In 1925 it was declared a Crown colony. QED.

No one is talking about stopping tourism but if you don't understand the legacy of colonialism and the economic effect this has had on the population you really should investigate.