A certain book

annsixty

He could have said “ this is what I want to remember and I’m not going to let facts get in the way of a good story”

😁

Pedwards

This one? 😅

😁

Now this!
Is PH stupid? Deliberately destructive? Devious? Totally thick?
The Duke of Sussex has compromised the security of the Royal family by describing the layout of various royal residences, as well as his personal protection detail, an expert has warned.
Dai Davies, a former head of royal protection, said the Duke was a “fool” for revealing such information in his memoir, Spare – details that could prove “dangerous” in the wrong hands
The Duke wrote in the book that he carried an electronic tracker and panic alarm at all times, describing how his protection team operated and reacted.
He included a detailed description of where to find the Queen Consort’s “fanciest bottles” of wine, “absurd gifts from foreign governments and potentates”, as well as “several storerooms full of paintings” at Highgrove, the King’s Gloucestershire home.
Minute details are also shared about the location of Queen Elizabeth II’s bedroom at Balmoral and the precise route from the entrance at Clarence House to the King’s private sitting room, complete with the exact number of stairs
Mr Davies, who has worked in police and security for more than 50 years, said: “These revelations give me great concern and will likely give great concern to Prince Harry’s current team.” It makes the job of protecting him, whether privately or otherwise, problematic. Only a fool would reveal this kind of detail about the royals’ inner sanctums

You couldn’t make it up! .

He's more foolish than even we thought.

I don't think he's deliberately destructive or devious

Totally thick?
Does not realise that actions and words have consequences?
Oh dear.
It gets worse.

I think the way Meghan Markle was treated was unacceptable but I am not really interested in the royal family and would feel more sympathetic about this couple if they renounced their titles and just got on with living their very comfortable lives. They complain of hierarchy and yet that is what the whole monarchical system is based on.

Don't worry, the RF is well protected and those little corgis will see off any threats.

Joseanne

Don't worry, the RF is well protected and those little corgis will see off any threats.

I think Andrew has the corgis.

Corgis can be snappy 😁

Maybe we shouldn’t have laughed at this.

Sorry. Pic didn’t work.

I collected ‘Spare’ from the library yesterday.

Am about 100 or so pages in.

A few things strike me so far, some quite obvious.

1) Losing his mother tragically at 12 years old has had a profound effect on him, should probably have had more counselling/therapy at the time, assuming he didn’t, but this was 25 or so years ago and thinking on such matters changes.

2) Seems to me both Harry and his father should have attended each others boarding schools. Charles would have flourished at Eton, and Gordonstun would have suited Harry so much better.

3) All our memories of past events differ. Harry writes about going to Crathie church on the morning after his mother’s death. He writes that as they return, it is felt the gathering crowds have to be acknowledged. So the car stops, they get out, see the flowers, he reaches for his father’s hand for comfort, cameras click rhythmically.
Now, my memory may not be correct, but I am sure on the Sunday after Diana’s death, the News reported the RF going to church, we saw the cars sweeping along, but no sign of the family inside as such.
The scenes Harry describes were days later, on the eve of the funeral, after all the fuss about the Queen remaining at Balmoral.
I think that was the first time we had seen the boys since the death of their mother.

Harry’s memory is mixed up on that point.

I shall keep on reading.

I don’t recall the RF’s car stopping either, let alone the children getting out. They did view the flowers in London as you say Calendargirl.

They also viewed the flowers at Balmoral, but not that day I think.
You will find quite a lot of that Calendargirl. I wonder if that is the difference with a memoir and an autobiography? It is hardly surprising that a bereaved child would confuse and conflate events, but it is annoying to the reader.
I agree with your observations so far.

annsixty

He could have said “ this is what I want to remember and I’m not going to let facts get in the way of a good story”

We all remember what we want to remember annsixty it is how human beings survive trauma. Of course sometimes the suppressing of memory can lead to breakdowns, which is why people go into therapy.

It is very difficult for the average Jamaican to access the beach in their own country surrounded by some of the most beautiful ocean water in the world. That is colonialism. It is why the British monarchy will endure in England, but not in Jamaica and Australia.

The monarchy’s last chance to modernize has passed. The Royal family made their choice. The snobbishness which is deeply attached to a sense of blood line superiority won’t survive the first half of the 21st century across the Commonwealth of nations. They will substantially reject both Charles and the angry Prince of Wales.

Throughout his book, Prince Harry details the instances during which Prince William put a finger in either his face, or that of his wife. There is no excuse for that conduct. It marks and identifies William as a royal bully. Apparently his goofiness, which can be misidentified for an awkward friendliness, is a façade to obscure his imperiousness.

Prince Harry did what a man is supposed to do. He has put his wife and children first. He has protected them from abuse and assault. He has protected them from a viciousness and dishonesty that is difficult for almost everyone who hasn’t been smeared by the media to possibly understand.

Prince Harry has told the truth about his life in a straightforward and transparent manner. He has changed the rules of the game. He has lifted his voice against the anonymous sources who come from exactly where he said they come from. The silence of the Royal family with regard to what he has said is not a function of their dignity. It is a product of their shame.

steveschmidt.substack.com/p/prince-harry-has-changed-the-rules

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t recall the RF’s car stopping either, let alone the children getting out. They did view the flowers in London as you say Calendargirl.

They did view the flowers at Balmoral but that was days later, on the Sunday which was 4th September 1997.
Harry held Charles's hand and was comforted by the Queen.

Perhaps it's understandable he wasn't clear about the time because he was just a child and must have been in great distress.
I think for adults, significant dates become imprinted in the mind.

MawtheMerrier

Now this!
Is PH stupid? Deliberately destructive? Devious? Totally thick?
The Duke of Sussex has compromised the security of the Royal family by describing the layout of various royal residences, as well as his personal protection detail, an expert has warned.
Dai Davies, a former head of royal protection, said the Duke was a “fool” for revealing such information in his memoir, Spare – details that could prove “dangerous” in the wrong hands
The Duke wrote in the book that he carried an electronic tracker and panic alarm at all times, describing how his protection team operated and reacted.
He included a detailed description of where to find the Queen Consort’s “fanciest bottles” of wine, “absurd gifts from foreign governments and potentates”, as well as “several storerooms full of paintings” at Highgrove, the King’s Gloucestershire home.
Minute details are also shared about the location of Queen Elizabeth II’s bedroom at Balmoral and the precise route from the entrance at Clarence House to the King’s private sitting room, complete with the exact number of stairs
Mr Davies, who has worked in police and security for more than 50 years, said: “These revelations give me great concern and will likely give great concern to Prince Harry’s current team.” It makes the job of protecting him, whether privately or otherwise, problematic. Only a fool would reveal this kind of detail about the royals’ inner sanctums

You couldn’t make it up! .

Well as the Queen is dead and here is no guarantee Charles will use the same room I see no harm there.
As for the paintings etc, well if Charles insists on keeping them on private property and not in a secure vault or gallery so what if a few get pinched. Why should he be the only person to see them?
Mr Davies probably doesn't realise that a skilled hacker with a drone and some decent software could probably map out the buildings, track every member of the RF and find out far more if they really wanted to. If he's been in security for more than 50 years his thinking probably isn't current.

It is very difficult for the average Jamaican to access the beach in their own country surrounded by some of the most beautiful ocean water in the world. That is colonialism. It is why the British monarchy will endure in England, but not in Jamaica and Australia
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I don't understand the reference to beaches and Australia.

If Australia votes to become a republic what have beaches got to do with it? Most Australians do not have British ancestry either. It is a multi-cultural country.

Glorianny

MawtheMerrier

Now this!
Is PH stupid? Deliberately destructive? Devious? Totally thick?
The Duke of Sussex has compromised the security of the Royal family by describing the layout of various royal residences, as well as his personal protection detail, an expert has warned.
Dai Davies, a former head of royal protection, said the Duke was a “fool” for revealing such information in his memoir, Spare – details that could prove “dangerous” in the wrong hands
The Duke wrote in the book that he carried an electronic tracker and panic alarm at all times, describing how his protection team operated and reacted.
He included a detailed description of where to find the Queen Consort’s “fanciest bottles” of wine, “absurd gifts from foreign governments and potentates”, as well as “several storerooms full of paintings” at Highgrove, the King’s Gloucestershire home.
Minute details are also shared about the location of Queen Elizabeth II’s bedroom at Balmoral and the precise route from the entrance at Clarence House to the King’s private sitting room, complete with the exact number of stairs
Mr Davies, who has worked in police and security for more than 50 years, said: “These revelations give me great concern and will likely give great concern to Prince Harry’s current team.” It makes the job of protecting him, whether privately or otherwise, problematic. Only a fool would reveal this kind of detail about the royals’ inner sanctums

You couldn’t make it up! .

Well as the Queen is dead and here is no guarantee Charles will use the same room I see no harm there.
As for the paintings etc, well if Charles insists on keeping them on private property and not in a secure vault or gallery so what if a few get pinched. Why should he be the only person to see them?
Mr Davies probably doesn't realise that a skilled hacker with a drone and some decent software could probably map out the buildings, track every member of the RF and find out far more if they really wanted to. If he's been in security for more than 50 years his thinking probably isn't current.

What an insult to Dai Davies, presumably a man with extensive experience in security.

But, of course, you appear to know ways around it! 😁

I very much doubt that a security expert would be employed for fifty years if they didn’t keep up to date.

Re viewing the flowers at Balmoral. (Have looked it up)

It was on the Thursday after Diana’s death. The family had attended a Remembrance Service for Diana at Crathie church, and stopped to look at the flowers afterwards.

Then of course they returned to London for the funeral, which involved looking at more flowers and seeing the public.

I think it’s deliberate Callistemon he may not be all that intelligent but I don’t think he’s really thick.
I believe he really doesn’t care as he was thwarted by the RF at the Sandringham meeting, he thought he could have his cake and eat it.Now he’s going all out to try and bring his whole family down.Coating his aggression towards them with a smear of concern that they all need to get out of an institution.
Aided and abetted by Meghan.

Aided and abetted by Meghan.

Who appears to be keeping her head down.

She’s not daft is she?

Germanshepherdsmum

I very much doubt that a security expert would be employed for fifty years if they didn’t keep up to date.

Indeed. Their security firm will have the best methods.

The security firm will have already changed things to thwart problems. We change code on gates and doors, internet passwords monthly (or as needed), surely people accomplishing security as a job do more than we do?