Sometimes I am ashamed

So when 'identifying' as a man, did he choose the name John? If he was known as John when he committed the offence, he should be referred to as he and/or by that name during his trial.

With apologies (but not many) to the Immortal Memory

(V 2)
“What tho with lippy (s)he is decked
With dresses, heels and a’ that
Wi’ bags and skirts instead of kecks
A man’s a man for a’ that
If there a willy
It’s no’ silly
Whate’er (s)he claims
And changes names
A man’s a man, for a’ that

And we all know about “A Boy Named Sue”

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv05TdgIcQg

I don’t understand why people that are gender neutral have to be referred to as ‘they’ (I only realised this the other day).Surely you can only be one person at a time. Or maybe we should be like Germany and have make, female and neutral. I really am totally confused (it makes my brain hurt) by it although my older grandchildren seem to be more accepting of gender fluidity.

Beggars belief he’s in a women’s prison now.
He ought to be in a prison compatible with his crimes.
Rape = men’s prison.
I bet he can’t believe his luck.

Prisons don’t have enough room or staff to deal with this sort of thing.

The reason he is being sent to a female prison is that the authorities are living in fear that something 'bad' happens to him in a male prison.... they are keeping him safe.... who cares about the safety of women prisoners...
In a male prison he would be somebody's 'Mary' by breakfast next day... and we cant have that...can we??

I assume he will be isolated from other prisoners, not sharing a cell with natal women.

Or can I assume that, sigh.

MOnica... I would assume nothing in this Brave New World!!!

No, that is what I thought.

M0nica

I assume he will be isolated from other prisoners, not sharing a cell with natal women.

Or can I assume that, sigh.

I think the 'allocation' / isolation is done on a case-by-case basis after consideration by the various authorities involved, taking into account the facilities available.

I doubt this individual will be sharing a cell with a natal woman... regardless of the fact that he has now identified as a woman. She is probably a bit too 'high profile' now in the public awareness stakes so I would imagine the authorities are going to tread a bit carefully.

I hope you're right Dickens and that as well as not sharing a cell with a natal woman, he will not be left unsupervised in any situation with natal women while in prison.

Smileless2012

I hope you're right Dickens and that as well as not sharing a cell with a natal woman, he will not be left unsupervised in any situation with natal women while in prison.

Including female prison officers.

Yes, including female prison officers Callistemon.

volver

MawtheMerrier

And you do have Nicola Sturgeon - says it all.

Aye - the leader of the party that nearly 50% voted for? What a country this is, giving people what they want...

Somebody asked me why I should feel ashamed of my country.
I think Volver has answered that question very succinctly
What a country this is, giving people what they want

I'm listening to Michael Marra singing Burns.

Everything else just seems daft just now.

Especially women who don't live here any more telling us what they think of us. Silly lassie.

(And no, there's been no whisky consumed.)

Yes that's what is silly here. Not people calling a Male rapist she.

No, folk deciding to go and live in another country and deciding they're ashamed of their former country. That's quite silly. Works both ways though.

You would think the optics alone would make people stop and think is this an effective strategy.

volver

I'm listening to Michael Marra singing Burns.

Everything else just seems daft just now.

Especially women who don't live here any more telling us what they think of us. Silly lassie.

(And no, there's been no whisky consumed.)

Nothing quite so sentimental as the Scots on Burns night.

Maybe you should have a dram or three Volver - sounds as if you need one.

What slagging off the land of your birth and the people who live in it? Aye, agreed.

Lines, as they say, have been crossed.

Lines have been crossed. Are you joking. There have been women raped by this man.

You're not really paying attention.

You don't move 500 miles south into another country and tell the people back home that you're ashamed of them for making their own decisions.

Like Peter Finch said in Network, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more" 😡

Oh I am paying attention alright.

Dickens
The authorities can be as careful as the want: he will still be got at when the wardens just happen to be looking the other way 😉