The King evicts Harry and his wife from Frogmore!

chardy times have changed

charles has slimmed everything down. it's direct line only

Reporting comes with it's own failures, lack of truth, sins of omission.

It was reported Frogmore was a wedding gift from the Queen, really it was a gifted lease (terminology). Eviction is probably the wrong term also.

Many true and false items have been reported. We'll never know the truth on much of the minutia. Much of what Harry claims can be dug out/sourced for people to see headlines are false, many true.

The tabloids are very much part to the problems, as Harry purports.

I suspect only King Charles knows what is to be with regards to the housing needs of Harry, Andrew, Edward, the York girls, and all other RF in future. For sure we should all know, by now, he can't give away the Crown Estate - the Queen could seemingly give away Amner. Fair to all grandchildren? I think not. The RF have a long history of never fair or equal.

Myself, I'd not remove Harry from Frogmore. To what end? Rather like removing one of your children from your will, the ultimate act of not showing unconditional and equal love for all your children.

None of these people will be asking my opinion; if I were Harry, I'd have silently walked away and never looked back.

lemsip

chardy times have changed

charles has slimmed everything down. it's direct line only

Times have changed since 1988?

Yawn. Not my circus, not my monkeys

His being spiteful to Harry proving his the idiot he always has been, hardly been a good example of husband or a father has he?
King yes only by birth … not actions

The children and grandchildren of the monarch can be called Prince or Princess. I suppose Archie and Lilibet in theory are a p&p, but seeing as their parents are no longer working members of the RF, and have chosen to make their lives overseas, such titles are unnecessary, particularly after Archie’s birth when H&M made a thing of not wanting him to have a title.

I say good for the King to make that decision. Harry and Meghan no longer live here so why should they still have Frogmore Cottage? There will be plenty of other places they can stay in should they ever visit the UK.
What I can't get my head around, is the fact Andrew has been offered Frogmore Cottage! Though logically he and Fergie don't need a huge abode either!!

Calendargirl

The children and grandchildren of the monarch can be called Prince or Princess. I suppose Archie and Lilibet in theory are a p&p, but seeing as their parents are no longer working members of the RF, and have chosen to make their lives overseas, such titles are unnecessary, particularly after Archie’s birth when H&M made a thing of not wanting him to have a title.

Thank you. I agree that they need not need titles living in the US. (Yes, Meghan and Harry too believe it or not )

Grany

Why does the Crown Estate - a public body which is supposed to raise money for the government - allow the royals to use their property as if it's their own? #AbolishTheMonarchy

Probably because it was land grabbed when we were invaded in 1066. I can never see why the earthly kings are connected to God/church. I am sure some of them are nice people but they are entitled and live in houses that are far too big in many instances, like AirMiles Andy, why does he have 31 bedrooms? Now Charlie is cutting his allowance he will have to live on his naval pension - many do but without large Inheritances to pad it out. I cannot accept all the bowing and scraping, they are people born to privilege, I hope Charlie is the last monarch, it is outdated.

Joseanne

^That has always been my issue with the reporting. Stories against Meghan by "palace sources" are taken at face value, but anything Meghan says need definitive proof. I believe NONE of them are telling the whole truth. Not Meghan and Harry, not the royal family and certainly not the tabloids.^
Why does Meghan need to mention anything at all? She should have had a better sense of decorum if she didn't want to be criticised. Stories only spring from the drip drip information she provides.

Megsie feels that she is important, she would have preferred the other brother. The 'stories' about what happened in Oz were not made up by the press. She feels hard done by because she is not top dog and went on Oprah to tell the world. Hazno is not the only child to lose a parent, sadly many have to cope with that without the cushion of vast wealth. The pair of them are Whingers who expect too much and don't want to work. Megsie listed herself everywhere as Caucasian until she discovered the race card. She has forgotten the £millions that the wedding cost the taxpayer. I wondered how Charlie would react to that book and all the interviews to criticise the family, now we know. He's pushing them away; I think Megsie was really expecting an apology (what for ?) now the pair of them can sulk in their 16 bathroom mansion, knowing the UK can manage very well without their presence.

Casdon

It’s too early to judge in my opinion. My guess is that this is part of the estate rationalisation plan and trimming back of finances the king is doing. Andrew can’t afford to keep on Royal Lodge without financial help. I’d wager if he moves to Frogmore Cottage, PoW will have Royal Lodge, and another property will be sold. M&H may well be offered something smaller, after all they are in the UK only very infrequently - maybe they will get use of PoW current small house on the Windsor Estate instead. It’s all about saving money I suspect.

Megsie would never accept that, it doesn't have enough bathrooms and the Drawing room is modest - good enough for Kate but not for the 'Hollywood wannerbe'. As GingerWhinger and Meganut are not working royals they don't have to be housed anywhere. They can find a travel lodge if they show their faces. They wanted to live overseas, nobody forced them, if you leave a job you don't keep the car and and use the staff dining room

Joseanne

I think I'd be a bit miffed if I'd put a lot of effort and thought into re designing the interior of Frogmore. On the other hand, if I were only going to use it on very rare occasions I'd get the point and would be equally happy checking into the Lanesborough or similar. If it is symbolic of stripping me of everything, then I guess I might feel I deserved it somewhat for criticising The King, Queen and Ps of Wales in public.
The Omid Scobie mouthpiece only drops these nuggets to keep H & M relevant, which they're not.

Plus the paint was very expensive ORGANIC stuff, no Dulux from B&Q😂. I can't help wondering if the Oprah fiasco, podcasts and 'Spare' had anything to do with Charlie's decision .......

merlotgran

^Has anyone moved into Nottingham Cottage since H&M decamped to Frogmore?^

And what about Appartment 1, The palatial residence next door to William and Kate? Done up at huge expense to the taxpayer and stands empty because H&M turned it down.

Didn't know that, what was wrong with it? Maybe it was when Megsie wanted to live in Windsor Castle and the queen offered Frogmore instead.

varian

Just how many homes do all these royals actually need?

OK Buck House is just a place of work.

So there's Windsor Castle for living in.

Maybe they could make a case for keeping Holyrood House although they already have Balmoaral aa a Scottish home.

Is that not enough ?

We only have one home which is where we live. We do have friends how have or have had a second home - usually in a holiday place, but how could anyone justify having umpteen homes at a time when many of our fellow citizens are homeless?

They were land grabbed years ago and they just got used to them- don't forget Sandringham and the 'small' farm houses on the estate!

Some interesting early morning posts, RVKICR (Royal Valet Kicks In Charles’ Reign?!)

I love your if you leave a job you don't keep the car and and use the staff dining room

Saggi

Is there not a Republican among any of you …who cares about these awful immoral people!

There are plenty of us here but the monarchist obsession can continue and infinitum and we've heard it all before. H&M evil. Poor C&C can do no wrong despite their nefarious past. 😴😴😴

*ad infinitum

The Sandringham estate wasn’t grabbed. Victoria purchased it.

Re Archie and Lilibet and Prince and Princess.

Charles has now been monarch for almost 6 months.

No announcement has been made (to the best of my knowledge) about their change of title.

I imagine even H&M know they would be on thin ice if they started to discuss the P&P issue, until Charles has decided how to proceed.

On a different note, I think it would be good at the time of the Coronation if Charles made Edward and Sophie Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh.

Well deserved.

Varian
We do have friends how have or have had a second home - usually in a holiday place, but how could anyone justify having umpteen homes at a time when many of our fellow citizens are homeless?

I doubt if they think about it that way at all. If they do, they probably justify it just the way your friends do.
People like one DGD who can’t afford to live near their work or get on the housing ladder because of second or holiday homes, left empty for weeks on end, see those owners the same way as this business of the RF.

I’m not actually defending the number of homes the RF has, or who is living where, or whether they’ve been lucky enough to have been given or inherited a home from their parents.
I agree that no one needs so many homes.
I’m just pointing out that it isn’t only an RF issue, when it comes to homeless people.

But I don’t see any holiday home owners even second home owners on GN rushing to give them up for the benefit of others.

The King is the Head of the Church of England, Does he not believe in Forgiveness?

Nan99

The King is the Head of the Church of England, Does he not believe in Forgiveness?

Quite possibly. He may very well have forgiven Harry, who knows?

Perhaps he simply doesn’t believe in letting a good home stand empty whilst he can decant Andrew into it and thus free up a mansion with 30 bedrooms for some other use. He is a great believer in efficiency and is obviously starting to make changes to that end.

Does not repentance proceed forgiveness ?

Jaberwok

Meghan was extremely unkind to 3 year old Princess Charlotte, that is why she and George did not follow the happy couple down the aisle,but came with their parents.

That's funny because here they are walking down the aisle. Charlotte is 3 George is 2