So how can we show our disgust ...

Perhaps you mean poll tax ayse.

Dear oh dear. Can you think what correction you need?

Chardy

Galaxy

Join an opposition party, fundraise for them, post leaflets in the rain, boring stuff like that I am afraid.

Sadly the Opposition Party are no better. They care little for ordinary people, and nothing for the vulnerable.

Oh my Chardy. My local Labour party branch has, since January, been door knocking 3 times a week on doors of the most deprived sections of our ward finding out what people want most and what their priorities are. whatever the weather. I am part of a local Labour Party initiative working week on week of proposals to make Mental health provision fit for purpose..I'm in he vulnerable category as I receive MH services but my opinion is valued if anything more keenly than "theorists".

Many people in my ward are actively involved in the local food banks and volunteer at the local library which is volunteer run.

How wrong you are. We are just ordinary members. The local Labour MP's I know care passionately!

That's interesting Wyllow, I have had a few conversations on here about the labour party, and there seems to be some similar experiences, in that I have found my branch very supportive and hard working, very decent people, I have found my CLP more challenging shall we say.

Whitewavemark2

Dear oh dear. Can you think what correction you need?

For context see image in Wwmk2's post at 19.44

Am I reading this right?

JRM is supporting Fiona Bruce excusing Stanley Johnson by saying he only broke his wife's nose once because he thinks that women are not excused from 'correction' and 'assertive guidance can be useful, though serious injury should not be inflicted'

'Correction' and 'assertive, but non injuring, 'guidance' are needed and useful.

Does this sound like JRM supporting physical 'chastisement' of a wife (or female partner) ?

I think this needs a thread all of its own. In Chat, maybe.

Where did you find the quote, Wwmk2?

Galaxy

That's interesting Wyllow, I have had a few conversations on here about the labour party, and there seems to be some similar experiences, in that I have found my branch very supportive and hard working, very decent people, I have found my CLP more challenging shall we say.

Indeed, Galaxy!

FannyCornforth

biglouis

We are too soft in this country. We should protest like the French.

Absolutely
They are currently up in arms because the retirement age in France is being raised from 62 to 64.
I’ve always thought that ‘our’ animosity towards the French is because we are secretly envious of their feistiness and noncompliance

The retirement age does need to increase in France. Life expectancy is now longer than it was certainly for my grandparents generation and even my parents.

I reached the state pension age at 60 having worked for 42 years. I could live until I'm ninety which means that for one third of my life I will be receiving the state pension. It so happens that I am still working at 76. I enjoy what I do - it keeps my brain active. I'll probably give up at 80 because of the changes that are coming along with taxes.

JRM advocating non injuring wife beating correction is clearly not of great interest...

BTW. Life expectancy is falling in the UK.

When it comes to any party likely to get elected in the UK there will be very little difference in the policies actually put in operation.
They will say they are better and there will be tinkering at the edges, the reality is if we want better services, we have to pay more. Not the rich there are too few and their money is tied up out of reach, all the rest of us, yes, you, me and aunt Mabel.

The very best we can hope for is a competent PM, not a self obsessed comedian like Johnson, best to forget Truss.

Not everyone here shares your disgust OP.

MaizieD

BTW. Life expectancy is falling in the UK.

Likely because of obesity and the NHS cuts, no treatment die sooner, less care cost.

Whitewavemark2

Dear oh dear. Can you think what correction you need?

This is 100 % not true
JRM did not say anything of the sorry.
It was some ‘wag’ on Twitter taking the proverbial.
As much as I dislike Mogg, and his views in particular, I also hate this sort of thing muddying the already murky waters

MaizieD

JRM advocating non injuring wife beating correction is clearly not of great interest...

Again, it’s not true. It didn’t happen

‘A satirical side swipe’ reckons the author of the fake news. Oh my aching sides

Thanks fc

When it comes to political satire, on Twitter for example, it is getting harder to tell the difference between that and reality. You can hardly blame people when they fall for some of the nonsense printed online! We are living in strange times.

Skunkhair Were you suggesting that I was ‘blaming anyone’, or was it meant more generally?
I certainly wasn’t blaming anyone, I’m sorry if that was the impression.
I only found out because I was intrigued (and in the grips of insomnia 😣)

I’m not sure if I think it was ‘satire’, I think it was unnecessarily unpleasant and sh*t stirry.
The first person to respond to the tweet was a horrified victim of domestic violence; I don’t think that she’d find it very funny

It fooled me. Thanks for correcting, FannyC.

I only hope it's not flying uncontrollably round the world in the way that lies do.

I recall someone making a joke about there being no money left in the UK Treasury. That was 15 years ago and has been refuted countless times but it still surfaces here on Gnet, quoted as the truth, with depressing regularity.

I would think JRM would have legal grounds to address that, that will be good wont it if JRM comes out looking like the good guy.

How true.

The only way is to try to learn from experience, but it is very difficult at times.

However, I would not be so foolish as to post the lie twice and keep repeating it even though I know it isn’t true.

The way really is to check, but my problem is - time- I have enough trouble keeping up with everything that is going on and rarely have time to look at something in depth. Still, it’s good when others do.

Galaxy

I would think JRM would have legal grounds to address that, that will be good wont it if JRM comes out looking like the good guy.

Good guy?😄 now we really are in fantasy world.

Oh I dont think it's your fault WW I think it's the original tweet.

Unfortunately I suspect the main opposition party will turn out to be just as bad as the one you have now. Where are all the competent and inspirational leaders in the world ? Not in politics that’s for sure.

Galaxy

I would think JRM would have legal grounds to address that, that will be good wont it if JRM comes out looking like the good guy.

I think he has genuinely said enough vile things to be able to counteract that possibility.