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Whitewavemark2 Mon 03-Apr-23 11:19:38

Just not in the right direction 😄😄

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Norah Wed 05-Apr-23 18:48:41

GrannyGravy13 We had children in Private Schools in 80’s through to end 90’s, the school stopped ski trips due to low take up. The pupils preferred to go with friends and family as opposed to roughing it

Same, except the yrs. Our children hate coaches, ferrys, hostels, all of it.

They want to be with family and friends - actually skiing, not wasting time, sleeping in bad conditions, and eating food they don't care for.

Our GC are also excellent on the slopes, want only slope time.

Throw us all in the car, through Tunnel, onward to the slopes!

varian Wed 05-Apr-23 18:50:03

Yes the proper rich kids went ski-ing with their families.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 05-Apr-23 18:57:47

varian

Yes the proper rich kids went ski-ing with their families.

Meow…

Jaxjacky Wed 05-Apr-23 19:02:36

Well we’re not rich, so our granddaughter has gone with school, suffering the accommodation and food offered ‘roughing it’.
I’ll see what she says when she gets back.

Fleurpepper Wed 05-Apr-23 19:05:20

Norah

GrannyGravy13 We had children in Private Schools in 80’s through to end 90’s, the school stopped ski trips due to low take up. The pupils preferred to go with friends and family as opposed to roughing it

Same, except the yrs. Our children hate coaches, ferrys, hostels, all of it.

They want to be with family and friends - actually skiing, not wasting time, sleeping in bad conditions, and eating food they don't care for.

Our GC are also excellent on the slopes, want only slope time.

Throw us all in the car, through Tunnel, onward to the slopes!

Well, I can say I am proud of having taken kids skiing who did not mind- because that was the only chance they'd got. We did it in our own holiday time, organised second-hand ski clothes sales or hire, went to Hostels and travelled by coach- so the trip of a life-time for some would be less than half the price of other ski trips by plane and to 'Hôtel style' accom.

Kids and parents thanked us so much, time and time again, for giving them that chance.

And yes, our kids loved both- going with us by car, or going with their own schools (with much higher prices!).

This thread has totally lost the plot!

varian Wed 05-Apr-23 19:05:56

One of our grandaughters spent 38 hours on a coach with her schoolfriend because of brexit delays, missing one day of her hard saved up for first ski trip. I hope it doesn't take her so long to get home.

Fleurpepper Wed 05-Apr-23 19:08:23

Wow- where is she? Fingers crossed. Hope she will love it all the same.

Joseanne Wed 05-Apr-23 19:09:09

It doesn't matter who is wealthy or not, all children are rich in experiences if they've had a little break away, even locally, with friends, family, school, cubs etc.

Joseanne Wed 05-Apr-23 19:11:18

This thread has totally lost the plot.
I agree Fleurpepper. We all do our best to give children the best opportunities.

Fleurpepper Wed 05-Apr-23 19:15:31

Joseanne

It doesn't matter who is wealthy or not, all children are rich in experiences if they've had a little break away, even locally, with friends, family, school, cubs etc.

Yes, for those, some staff and myself, used to organise week-end trips Youth Hostelling within 50-100 miles- in our own time, to get them a chance to get away very cheaply, and we had a special fund to cover all or parts of costs for those with families in difficulty. Girls only trips with only female staff for girls who were never allowed to go on mixed trips. And for the Special Needs section of the school, camping trips in our back garden.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 05-Apr-23 19:15:45

Jaxjacky

Well we’re not rich, so our granddaughter has gone with school, suffering the accommodation and food offered ‘roughing it’.
I’ll see what she says when she gets back.

I hope she has a brilliant time and the delays on the way out are not repeated on the return journey.

One of the main reasons our brood were never interested in school ski trips was that we were fortunate that they could all ski before senior school, one before infant school and one before juniors.

They were accustomed to going away with us, other family members and family friends whose children they had grown up with. Sometimes there were over 30 in our party, they enjoyed being together.

Nothing wrong with wanting to be with one’s family.

Fleurpepper Wed 05-Apr-23 19:16:37

because for all sorts of reasons, some families could not, or would not, give their children the 'best opportunities'.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 05-Apr-23 19:16:40

Joseanne

It doesn't matter who is wealthy or not, all children are rich in experiences if they've had a little break away, even locally, with friends, family, school, cubs etc.

Totally agree 👍🏻

GrannyGravy13 Wed 05-Apr-23 19:18:07

Fleurpepper

because for all sorts of reasons, some families could not, or would not, give their children the 'best opportunities'.

Agree with you.

Refuse to be made to feel guilty for my children’s upbringing though.

Fleurpepper Wed 05-Apr-23 19:20:16

'Nothing wrong with wanting to be with one’s family.,

of course not. One does not prevent the other though. All the trips I run had top skiers as well as beginners and everything in between.

We had to qualify as official 'ski organisers' in order to lead those trips, in our own holiday time and at our own cost too.

Norah Wed 05-Apr-23 19:29:20

varian

Yes the proper rich kids went ski-ing with their families.

Oh dear..

We're working class. We still piled everyone in the car. Far cheaper than the school trips. Added plus family time.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 05-Apr-23 19:39:19

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 05-Apr-23 19:58:58

Anyone seen that utter monstrosity that they are apparently towing to Portland? If I lived there I’d be rioting - it will be a total stain on the beautiful area.

vegansrock Wed 05-Apr-23 21:19:52

My youngest Dd is currently skiing with 54 school children (she’s a teacher , not one of the kids!) . They went by plane. Yes it is quite a posh school.

Callistemon21 Wed 05-Apr-23 22:35:29

Whitewavemark2

Anyone seen that utter monstrosity that they are apparently towing to Portland? If I lived there I’d be rioting - it will be a total stain on the beautiful area.

I don't know where it's come from but it looks like a floating factory.

I'm sure a ship moored at Portland was used as a prison not that long ago - is it still there too?

Joseanne Wed 05-Apr-23 22:57:59

Something reminded me that DH went there to a naval base to do some work. I've just asked him and there was a prison ship there. The naval base was called HMS Osprey, this was 1990s.

Callistemon21 Wed 05-Apr-23 23:05:18

Joseanne

Something reminded me that DH went there to a naval base to do some work. I've just asked him and there was a prison ship there. The naval base was called HMS Osprey, this was 1990s.

It was a training base and air station, closed in the 1990s, I think, and where ships, both British and foreign, came in for trials carried out by the RN after refits.

Modompodom Thu 06-Apr-23 10:29:40

As a Dovorian I just want to say that the delays at Dover have been going on since long before Brexit, especially at the beginning of all our school holidays. If you know the layout of Dover well, you will know there isn't much room for extra traffic or anything else at the foot of the cliffs. We have a very busy dual-carriageway which cuts off the sea front from the rest of the town, because there was nowhere else to build it, and another which comes down to the port from the top of the cliffs. Dover can't cope with the extra traffic, but there is no scope for building more infrastructure.

JdotJ Thu 06-Apr-23 14:00:28

IF Brexit is to blame, WHY aren't there hold-ups in other border countries ??????

Norah Thu 06-Apr-23 14:08:12

Odd notion init? Tunnel, as usual.