A Home Secretary unfit for Purpose

What she said is correct. How can she be racist? Her parents I believe are Mauritian and Indian. I think she is doing a good job actually.

Have you ever seen the ex Police Detective Maggie Oliver who worked closely with the hundreds if not thousands of girls who were raped, drugged, abused etc by British Pakistani men? It has finally been confirmed that this would have stopped much earlier on if the Police and social services had acted when they were first told about this but they didn’t because they were scared of being seen as racist. They knew what was going on for years but did nothing!

This disgusting group of abusers from the West Midlands are equally vile but thank goodness it has not gone on for decades like the other lot and they are all being jailed.

Primrose53 it doesn't matter where your parents are from or what colour you are, if you deal with people differently because of their skin colour, you are racist.

Here we go

Come on now, what you mean?

"How can she be racist? Her parents I believe are Mauritian and Indian."

Best non sequitur have heard for some time.

People from all cultures can be racist.

Whats changed already is that police forces are now much more on the ball as regards grooming - there's a long way to go.

Those past incidents did have a holding back for the reasons described but that has been uncovered a long time ago and therefore it has long been accepted how dreadfully badly it was dealt with and not just because of race issues but sheer bad handling and not listening to survivors too

Bravermans statements were a posturing for political gain, nothing less.

....and yes I couldn't help noticing somewhat wryly that the next day we hear of what has been going on for centuries - white people mainly men but women too sexually exploiting children.

Volver was quite correct, anyone who treats people differently because of their skin colour is racist.

Primrose53

What she said is correct. How can she be racist? Her parents I believe are Mauritian and Indian. I think she is doing a good job actually.

Have you ever seen the ex Police Detective Maggie Oliver who worked closely with the hundreds if not thousands of girls who were raped, drugged, abused etc by British Pakistani men? It has finally been confirmed that this would have stopped much earlier on if the Police and social services had acted when they were first told about this but they didn’t because they were scared of being seen as racist. They knew what was going on for years but did nothing!

This disgusting group of abusers from the West Midlands are equally vile but thank goodness it has not gone on for decades like the other lot and they are all being jailed.

The abuse had gone on for almost a decade.
Craig Guildford, the chief constable of West Midlands police, said: “It is important to remain open-minded about who can commit these offences. They know no social or religious boundaries and it is important to remind the public and professionals to report their concerns to the police, regardless

Suella said ‘almost all’ Glorianny, not all.

Jaxjacky

Suella said ‘almost all’ Glorianny, not all.

She said "groups of men" "almost all British-Pakistani"
A few days before the release of the news about these trials. The trials had been going on for a long time. Although they were not public knowledge and news could not be released about them it is highly likely that as Home secretary she was at least aware they were happening. So why would she make such a statement? It's part of an orchestrated campaign to make people afraid of immigrants.

I almost started a thread on the same issue Glorianny. Sadly, it's quite evident that some people believe Braverman, who is doing racists' job for them.

Obviously you understand nothing about racism Primrose why do you think she can’t be racist because she has a mixed race heritage herself it doesn’t preclude her in any way at all
Of course she racist and hugely unfeeling, insensitive and with a nasty cruel streak in her
Do we get headlines every time a white man abuses a child There are white gangs too you know ?
Have you ever seen a headline ‘White man abuses ……..’no never, nor me

Suela Braverman should be married to Farage what a pair they would make

volver3

Primrose53 it doesn't matter where your parents are from or what colour you are, if you deal with people differently because of their skin colour, you are racist.

She was talking about their culture not their colour.

The real racists here are the abusers who deliberately sought out young girls, predominately white, to rape, drug and impregnate. They didn’t seek out girls from their own culture did they?

In that case, no: but there were plenty of white men who were glad to buy their "services".

..and Volver is right: the day we see "white men abuse girls" headlines will be the day that we have real equality.
Because its mostly white men in the UK abuse women and girls, Is it not?

OK then.

Why should the fact that Braverman's parents are from Mauritius and India prevent her telling us that Pakistanis are to blame for all our ills in this area when they're not? She is stigmatising a particular cultural group in our society and it seems like it's working.

Just because one group of people may be racist (by your definition), it doesn't stop her being a "real" racist too.

The truth is that British Pakistani men are racist towards white girls and women. This is why they target young white girls.
The men teach their sons that white girls are either whores or prostitutes. So it doesn't matter what you do to them.

The only decent females are thir women who exist under strict controls.
The men are from a different culture to ours. They don't want to assimilate and this makes it all so much harder.

I suppose there might be a lot of oppostion to this post but all of you who think all people are the same are very naive.

Sadly I learned the truth ;iving in Derby. I hope it will change in time.

sorry, living,

pinkquartz

The truth is that British Pakistani men are racist towards white girls and women. This is why they target young white girls.
The men teach their sons that white girls are either whores or prostitutes. So it doesn't matter what you do to them.

The only decent females are thir women who exist under strict controls.
The men are from a different culture to ours. They don't want to assimilate and this makes it all so much harder.

I suppose there might be a lot of oppostion to this post but all of you who think all people are the same are very naive.

Sadly I learned the truth ;iving in Derby. I hope it will change in time.

White men abuse women too - they don't make the headlines. Did you read the report of the recent convictions? Or look at the photos and read the names? Not one brown face or Pakistani-sounding name amongst them!

A Home Office report found that Pakistanis weren't over-represented amongst paedophiles, the overwhelming majority of whom are white British males. Funny how the media didn't have much to say about that report!

There are other places than Derby to learn the truth! But there are always some who will swallow anything that will confirm their own bigotry.

PS. My daughter is marrying a man from a Muslim family in a couple of months. They wouldn't recognise the stereotype you're painting.

volver3

OK then.

Why should the fact that Braverman's parents are from Mauritius and India prevent her telling us that Pakistanis are to blame for all our ills in this area when they're not? She is stigmatising a particular cultural group in our society and it seems like it's working.

Just because one group of people may be racist (by your definition), it doesn't stop her being a "real" racist too.

BTW Some Indians are extremely racist and class conscious. I don't know anybody from Mauritius, so can't comment. Not that it makes a jot of difference - in fact, I think it's racist to assume that all others can be lumped together and have the same interests. They're human beings and have as varying views as anybody else on the planet. It's ironic really because those with white skin are in the minority.

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pinkquartz

The truth is that British Pakistani men are racist towards white girls and women. This is why they target young white girls.
The men teach their sons that white girls are either whores or prostitutes. So it doesn't matter what you do to them.

The only decent females are thir women who exist under strict controls.
The men are from a different culture to ours. They don't want to assimilate and this makes it all so much harder.

I suppose there might be a lot of oppostion to this post but all of you who think all people are the same are very naive.

Sadly I learned the truth ;iving in Derby. I hope it will change in time.

"I suppose there might be a lot of oppostion to this post but all of you who think all people are the same are very naive."

In a post making sweeping statements about how British Pakistani men behave this sentence wins the prize for Least Self Aware Post of the Week.

We have hopefully just over a year before we get the chance to rid ourselves of all the corruption, racism and lies. It will be like getting rid of Trump - a massive relief.

A Home Office report found that Pakistanis weren't over-represented amongst paedophiles, the overwhelming majority of whom are white British males. Funny how the media didn't have much to say about that report!

I havent seen the report.

Is it overwhelming because there are 65 million white people and 4 million not? Or whatever the figures are.
Or did the statisitics take that into account? If you see what I mean.

This thread started by calling out the incompetence and racist lies together with the gaslighting told by Braverman.

Look how many she has convinced with her gaslighting! You can see why they continue to do it can’t you?

Trump is doing the same. For many uncritical listeners, the gaslighting works.