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Will You Pledge Allegiance?

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vegansrock Sun 30-Apr-23 07:34:47

Apparently we are all supposed to stand up in front of our tellys and pledge allegiance to the King saying stuff like “ May the King live forever”
Will you me doing it? Me neither, I’ll be in the garden hopefully.
What does “pledge allegiance” even mean in the 21st century? Before royalist pile in, yes I do know it has its roots a few hundred years ago, and it’s taken from a Handel anthem , but , honestly , that’s no excuse is it? We’re not in the Brownies fgs.

J52 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:00:59

Meant to edit out ‘to’

Luckygirl3 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:05:21

This is carrying inclusivity too far. What a piece of nonsense!

By all means have the archaic ceremonies if it brings money into the country, but I will not be pledging allegiance - why would anyone?

Gala Sun 30-Apr-23 10:06:30

Hang in there Galaxy the novelty will soon wear off.

Oopsadaisy1 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:13:31

No, I certainly won’t.

DamaskRose Sun 30-Apr-23 10:18:52

I am interested in the Coronation as a once in a lifetime experience. I don’t dislike the RF but I disagree with the wealth etc. I certainly won’t be swearing allegiance, I thought it was a joke!
Genuine question to whoever said “Lambeth Palace will be rubbing their hands”. Why?

Nandalot Sun 30-Apr-23 10:20:09

I won’t. But even swearing allegiance in the Abbey seems strange as, I assume, there will be a lot of foreign dignitaries.

Mollygo Sun 30-Apr-23 10:24:28

Gala
Can't understand why people get so exercised over something they say they're not going to watch or celebrate. Go about your day. Enjoy.
This.👏👏👏

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-23 10:25:06

It is replacing the tradition of asking only peers

Oopsadaisy1 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:27:57

If ‘Modernising the Monarchy’ means that they will pay taxes like the rest of us have to, then I might be more inclined to watch it, but he has had plenty of time to do that and he hasn’t.

annsixty Sun 30-Apr-23 10:28:09

Of course the answers are as expected and rightly so.
It is a very presumptuous ask and my answer is a resounding no.
I admired the late Queen but I felt no allegiance to her either.

fancythat Sun 30-Apr-23 11:01:25

No

henetha Sun 30-Apr-23 11:04:00

There is no "supposed to" about it. It's purely voluntary.
I shall. That's my choice.

paddyann54 Sun 30-Apr-23 11:06:09

Hoping my bad back is gone so I can join an Independence march from Kelvingrove to Glasgow Green.Not many monarchists will be there and I can confidently predict the only Union flags will be the Britnats on the sidelines trying to cause trouble...as usual.There will be a sea of Saltires

Sofa Sun 30-Apr-23 11:09:49

No, of course not.

Ailidh Sun 30-Apr-23 11:12:05

I will.

Daisymae Sun 30-Apr-23 11:16:58

I will be watching but the idea of standing in front of the TV and pledging is an odd idea for the 21st Century.

volver3 Sun 30-Apr-23 11:21:08

I mentioned this to DH and he said, "you're making that up, surely?"

Nope.

Louella12 Sun 30-Apr-23 11:25:28

I've not heard this suggestion . Find it hard to believe! The thought of people standing in front of their TVs, pledging allegiance is baffling.

I'm quite happy having the RF but no standing in this house. I doubt we'll even watch to be honest.

HousePlantQueen Sun 30-Apr-23 11:33:10

I shall watch the event but will not be pledging allegiance. I wish them well, but the monarchy has no importance in my life.

Luckygirl3 Sun 30-Apr-23 11:34:47

I will have it on for the music. Bryn Terfel and Roderick Williams will certainly make me turn the TV on. New works by Judith Weir, Debbie Wiseman and Paul Mealor get my vote too..... as well as old works by William Byrd. It will be a musical treat.

Redhead56 Sun 30-Apr-23 11:36:21

There are only an handful royals since the Queen died that I am interested in. I won’t be standing in front of my telly like an eccentric woman that will probably come naturally enough!

sandelf Sun 30-Apr-23 11:40:28

I think it's really meant to be a communal thing - and is just a way of affirming our loyalty to the United Kingdom. If it seems silly when home alone - no worries.
Archbishop Justin Welby will call upon all persons of goodwill in The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and of the other Realms and the Territories to make their homage, in heart and voice, to their undoubted King, defender of all.
The order of service on May 6 will read: ‘All who so desire, in the Abbey, and elsewhere, say together:
I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God.

A playing of a fanfare will then follow.

The Homage of the People is exciting because it’s brand new, something we can share in because of technological advances, so not just the people in the Abbey, but people who are online, on television, who are listening, and who are gathered in parks, at big screens and churches.

25Avalon Sun 30-Apr-23 11:44:11

Where is this suggestion from? It’s the first I’ve heard. I don’t mind saying “God save the King” but I shouldn’t be told I have to and I don’t see the need to swear allegiance unless you are in the armed forces. Or when I was young a Brownie.

Gillycats Sun 30-Apr-23 11:45:59

People are simply being asked to pledge allegiance, not being told to do it. If you don’t want to then don’t! Not sure why people are getting het up about it.

Luckygirl3 Sun 30-Apr-23 11:51:25

I guess people feel het up about it as it is a rather disturbing piece of self-aggrandisement in a king who is apparently desiring to be more relevant and in touch - offering people the chance to express adulation of oneself is pretty sick really.