Breaking: H & M in Car Chase

Yellowmellow

NYPD have a different take on it

Do they? Theres video posted on this thread of the taxi and the 2 squad cars. Always best to check before commenting.

Well people tried to assassinate Victoria a couple of times. I wonder how she reacted? The late Queen never turned an eyebrow when that chap shot at her at the Trooping of the Colour. But K&W sued the person who tried to take pictures of Kate when they didn't want her picture to be taken.

Rude posts about how intelligent or gullible your interlocutors are won't hack it either.

I don't "defend" Meghan, I just don't demonise or spread lies about her. What it's all got to do with Boris, I have no idea....but I'm sure it all makes sense to you.

merlotgran

volver3

Louella12
We didn't get all this hooha when Princess Anne was held at gun point.
It was 1974.

You need to move on, honestly.

So what if it was 1974? It’s a valid point.

Meghan is a gift to republicans - a star player. No matter what she and Harry say or do they will be defended at all costs by the same people who are happy to pour vitriolic scorn on the likes of Boris and Carrie Johnson et al.

I really don’t believe that intelligent people can be that gullible.

Who is gullible? I have no idea exactly how it felt to be in that car. I have never been pursued by paparazzi. My mother wasn't killed as a result of their actions.
I find it reasonable to suppose they wanted to know where M&H were staying. I have seen they stopped at a police station and had to transfer to a taxi. They were still being followed and photographed. I find it reasonable to suppose they were frightened and upset.
Others may have a different opinion.
But I would like to know how anyone persuades, encourages or stages a chase by paparazzi around NY without someone telling a news service they've done it. Paps just want cash so someone would be selling their story

Maybe a News Service could explain what happened, Gloriannay

Seems the H&M version differs markedly from the NYPD version.
Spot on Daddima!

volver3

Louella12

We didn't get all this hooha when Princess Anne was held at gun point.

It was 1974.

You need to move on, honestly.

Why?

Were people more resilient then?

Poor dears. Wonder if they realise how some people can’t give a tinker’s cuss about their ever silly antics to gain publicity.

I don't "defend" Meghan, I just don't demonise or spread lies about her. What it's all got to do with Boris, I have no idea....but I'm sure it all makes sense to you.

Get down from that lofty perch volver. You have no inside information on what’s lies or truth about Meghan. There’s been many lies coming from her own mouth but you don’t seem to get so righteously aggrieved over them.

Every time there’s a thread about H & M you’re straight in trying to put a stop to it. Give it a rest.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Oh dear, have a rattled a few cages? I suppose that's the problem with having a lofty perch...😉

I'm so grateful that you are often there when I post, letting me know how angry you are that I post.

Talk about them all you like, I don't want to stop it. Just be aware how angry you all are about a minor royal and a former actress who won't behave as you want them to...

Great comments by Andrew Marr, full of understanding www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJcQdUROLMA

Andrew Marr? Hilarious.

I agree with Andrew Marr. It's a nasty way to earn a living photographing people without their permission. Although it didn't seem as bad as was first reported Harry I believe is fragile and something like this may have sent his stress levels soaring.
I am not interested in this couple at all but feel that what happened was very wrong. I would feel this way about anyone who felt threatened.

"Near catastrophic", "Multiple near collisions", "relentless pursuit", "reckless", and unfortunate and IMHO inappropriate comparisons drawn with the horrific event which killed Diana. The taxi driver who was briefly involved said he certainly wouldn't describe it as a "chase", and one of the pursuers was on a bicycle. Really? Also, according to the NYPD, the only person cautioned about dangerous driving was one of H&M's security detail in an SUV. NYPD also reported that there had been "no injuries, collisions, or arrests". Even Scobie is frantically back-pedalling (attempted damage limitation?) and referring to an "over-emotional" initial description of the event. Since 9/11, Manhattan has been literally dripping with CCTV security cameras, so it should certainly be easy to piece together what actually happened, and to see this "drama" unfold in detail. Is anyone demanding that such evidence be produced? If I'd been subjected to such a "terrifying" ordeal, I most certainly would be. Funny how it's all gone quiet in that area. As for the Mayor of New York being the only person to mention speed as a factor, I don't think that H&M's spokesman's definition of a "chase", particularly when qualified by descriptions such as "near catastrophic", "relentless pursuit", "multiple near collisions" and "reckless" was intended to convey that this was anything less than mayhem on wheels.. which it clearly wasn't. Own goal, I fear.. and one of many. They just keep smashing them into the back of their net, don't they? Strange mindset, but they clearly don't see it that way...

Anniebach

2 hour chase through New York, they were in a taxi ! ! ! !

Yes and they travelled almost 200 yds in that time - it was New York after all!

Unless they were possibly chased around a few blocks during that time and came back to where they started?

NanaDana

"Near catastrophic", "Multiple near collisions", "relentless pursuit", "reckless", and unfortunate and IMHO inappropriate comparisons drawn with the horrific event which killed Diana. The taxi driver who was briefly involved said he certainly wouldn't describe it as a "chase", and one of the pursuers was on a bicycle. Really? Also, according to the NYPD, the only person cautioned about dangerous driving was one of H&M's security detail in an SUV. NYPD also reported that there had been "no injuries, collisions, or arrests". Even Scobie is frantically back-pedalling (attempted damage limitation?) and referring to an "over-emotional" initial description of the event. Since 9/11, Manhattan has been literally dripping with CCTV security cameras, so it should certainly be easy to piece together what actually happened, and to see this "drama" unfold in detail. Is anyone demanding that such evidence be produced? If I'd been subjected to such a "terrifying" ordeal, I most certainly would be. Funny how it's all gone quiet in that area. As for the Mayor of New York being the only person to mention speed as a factor, I don't think that H&M's spokesman's definition of a "chase", particularly when qualified by descriptions such as "near catastrophic", "relentless pursuit", "multiple near collisions" and "reckless" was intended to convey that this was anything less than mayhem on wheels.. which it clearly wasn't. Own goal, I fear.. and one of many. They just keep smashing them into the back of their net, don't they? Strange mindset, but they clearly don't see it that way...

That actually seems to be a fair overview of events.

Except - it doesn't take into accounts emotions. H&M didn't want to be followed to a friends home which would have meant paps camped outside. They didn't want their photos taken outside of the event itself, they posed happily for and during the event but that wasn't enough for the paps. I've posted a video of them in the cab with flashing camera's in their faces. They - as simply as I can put - didn't want that.

I wasn't there. I haven't seen much footage apart from that vid I posted, but if H&M found it concerning it's not my place to say - no, you didn't. It's their emotions, their worries, their concerns. And it is literally how his Mum died (taking the drunk driver aside) - with flashing cameras in her face in her dying moments. I'm not going to be the one to say to this young man that his feelings just don't matter.

Young man ?

Interesting that during the chase Doria appeared to be sleeping or looking at phone in a picture, Megan is grinning and Harry taking pictures. Not too scary then and no seatbelts for the “chase “ . Thought he would have learnt that from his mum that seat belts should be worn always it’s the law anyway both here and in New York. Why change from a suv with blacked out windows to a taxi without ? My guess is that this was a game to make material for a book or podcast and to make the case for paid for security by anyone but them . I am old and cynical!

Just for once turn off your own prejudices and stop assuming anybody who is sceptical of this non-story necessarily “hates” anybody.
Sensible words in your post Foxygloves.

I don't dislike Meghan, she is mildly amusing a lot of the time. Some do get very hot under the collar trying to defend her though.
The reference to a siren was not used to mock her. If you know your Disney it follows on from Meghan's obsession with The Little Mermaid. Maybe a bit of a childish comment on my part but no more so than Meghan's own juvenile comment comparing her royal life to The Little Mermaid and how Ariel 'lost her voice'? Anyway, I have my ticket booked for May 27th with DGDs. 🍿 🍿 🍿
Oh and the Whoopi comment wasn't malicious either.

Anniebach

Young man ?

That is what you take from my post?

He's 4 years younger than my son, he's 27 years younger than me.

Holy M of C, the nit pickers are in full flow.

I don’t want to be addressed with blasphemy but that’s life

I don't "defend" Meghan, I just don't demonise or spread lies about her.

I don’t either. In fact I rarely if ever post about her, so it doesn’t look as if I’m defending her by criticising others.

Glorianny......NYPD interviewed so suggest you get your facts right before you comment

Such nasty know alls on here

The paps should not have been chasing them in the first place - they happily posed for plenty of photographs at the actual event. They left in an SUV with a security escort, as I understand it, and were pursued by a number of paparazzi, they drove around to try and shake them off but ended up having to take refuge in a police station. They were then put in a taxi in the hope of eluding the paps who were waiting outside, the taxi driver said they seemed scared and nervous. The "chase" did not last two hours, the entire incident including the police station lasted two hours - they left the event around 10pm and finally got to their friends' house after midnight. Nobody said it was a "high speed" chase - the media appear to have created that all by themselves. Given what happened to Harry's mother when being pursued by paparazzi - surely even the most rabid posters on here must understand that he would have been scared and possibly having flashbacks.

I am no particular fan of the Sussexes but something clearly happened here, as confirmed by the NY police, early reports sounded a little hysterical but nothing was actually said by Harry and Meghan personally so could we put the knives away please?