Braverman attempts a cover up.

Both Rycrofts quoted.

Casdon I am a bit confused. Definitely Sir Philip has spoken and I couldn’t understand why he would be giving his opinion when he had retired in 2019. So I assumed that I had made a mistake and that it was Matthew but so far, Matthew is clearly involved but has been silent.
Are Philip and Matthew related?

ronib

Casdon I am a bit confused. Definitely Sir Philip has spoken and I couldn’t understand why he would be giving his opinion when he had retired in 2019. So I assumed that I had made a mistake and that it was Matthew but so far, Matthew is clearly involved but has been silent.
Are Philip and Matthew related?

I don’t think so, at least I can find nothing that links them online.

It is the permanent secretary’s duty to report issues with ministers behaviour to the PM. They can choose to act on it or ignore it.

An interesting decision for Sunak. Does he do what he should do, and take notice of the more centre wing of his party and sack her which means Braverman taking pot shots from the back benches, at the same time annoying the right wing head bangers, or does he stay silent (after an investigation) and try to keep her onside and quiet, which would show a weak PM.

Braverman will never keep quiet.

Sunak must show his mettle.

It was ever thus with a failing government.

Civil servants leak a non story, to yet again try and get rid of a democratically elected MP. Why, because she speaks from the hip, and they don't like it. They are servants not elected at all, and very much have their own agenda. The MSM are also totally complicit and definitely full of their own bias.

They're not trying to get rid of a democratically elected MP, Freya.

Always a good idea to comment on facts.

MaizieD are you saying SB wasn’t democratically elected?
Are you saying that the story wasn’t leaked to the press?
Are you saying that a retired very senior civil servant isn’t briefing against SB?

How would conducting an ethics enquiry, or if appropriate sacking her as a minister, stop her being an MP?

And so it rumbles on, all over the media (television) again today. There’ll be no rest till she’s gone.

Freya5

Civil servants leak a non story, to yet again try and get rid of a democratically elected MP. Why, because she speaks from the hip, and they don't like it. They are servants not elected at all, and very much have their own agenda. The MSM are also totally complicit and definitely full of their own bias.

Where's your evidence that civil servants are responsible for the leak?

If you'd been keeping your eyes open, you would be aware that there was criticism of Braverman for the speech she made at the NatCon conference - from a Conservative MP.

Conservative MPs and peers have been criticising her for months. One (anonymous) former senior minister called he a “real racist bigot”.

I'd like to think that these people are speaking out on moral grounds, but the fact that most of them remain anonymous suggests they're watching their own backs. They're frightened of losing their seats in areas being targeted by the LDs and Labour and saw for themselves the results of the local elections. Some candidates in the local elections didn't even associate themselves with the Conservative Party on electioneering leaflets or ballot papers.

Braverman has lost touch with her own backbenchers and many traditional Conservative voters.

ronib

MaizieD are you saying SB wasn’t democratically elected?
Are you saying that the story wasn’t leaked to the press?
Are you saying that a retired very senior civil servant isn’t briefing against SB?

The retired very senior civil servant who spoke out against Braverman is one of a number of people. She's a vote loser - not for her speeding conviction - but nearly everything she says and for her incompetence - and Conservatives know that.

Again it turns out that this hasn't just happened but months ago and some civil servant has provided the bullet for a Labour sniper to use to pick off the enemy. Anyone could ahve tried one of the various options and I don't think it was unreasonable to ask if a non-public course could be attended given the security implications

Trial by media is here l see lol glad to know you all have the facts of the media. It’s more trial by stopping the boats and the civil service for all these leeks think they should have to answer too because if they can’t be trusted with government messages then the leak person should be sacked

Ghastly woman. Has been sacked before for doing wrong. Sack her

How do you two know that the civil service is behind the leak?

Talk about trial by assumption!

PS. What security implications?

growstuff

How do you two know that the civil service is behind the leak?

Talk about trial by assumption!

PS. What security implications?

They don’t. It’s just easier to assume that if you don’t want to face the reality that it could be a plot from within the Tory party to get rid of one of the most dangerous women in UK politics. I will think more of the party if that is the case.

Suella Braverman accused of fresh ministerial code breaches over undisclosed links to Rwanda

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/suella-braverman-rwanda-ministerial-code-b2343646.html

Well, of course she attempted a cover-up.......
she's a politician......she thinks she's bulletproof........she thinks that the rules that apply to us normal folk don't apply to her, just like the rest of them!

Not a fan of hers or the Conservatives in general. But I do think this is being blown out of proportion. Unless she put pressure on the civil servants, rather than 'just asked'. But I'm sure we will find out in due course.

ronib

MaizieD are you saying SB wasn’t democratically elected?
Are you saying that the story wasn’t leaked to the press?
Are you saying that a retired very senior civil servant isn’t briefing against SB?

Oh, for goodness sake. Read the posts properly.

Freya was posting nonsense.

No-one is trying to to get rid of Braverman as an MP.

MaizieD how do you know this?
Raab is not standing as an mp in the next election. Effectively expunged wouldn’t you say?

You only have to give one name if you do the course remotely online so she could've kept anonymous on that if she'd called herself Sue ! There's alot of us .

ronib

MaizieD how do you know this?
Raab is not standing as an mp in the next election. Effectively expunged wouldn’t you say?

Some 40 tory MPs have said that they are not standing at the next GE.

Now make a 'the civil service has expunged them' conspiracy theory out of that... I'm sure you're more than capable of doing so.

But she does have "form" and now there is the Rwanda "undisclosed links" story.