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Can a woman have a penis?

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maddyone Wed 24-May-23 11:16:35

Ed Davey says they can. Keir Starmer isn’t sure. Can women have a penis?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 24-May-23 19:49:39

Mollygo and Doodledog excellent posts 👏👏👏

maddyone Wed 24-May-23 19:50:08

Because a penis cannot be made by anything other than nature. Of course a surgeon can make something that resembles a penis but it not in actual fact a penis.

Patsy70 Wed 24-May-23 19:52:14

No.

VioletSky Wed 24-May-23 20:02:31

Successful uterus transplants have happened

Also entire face transplants

Will it be a penis of it's a donated one?

The science is on its way

TerriBull Wed 24-May-23 20:13:32

I think most of us have zero interest in what's in anyone else's pants!

Nevertheless, given some women of late have been forced to share a changing room with the male bodied who aren't particularly circumspect about not exposing to their team mates what's in their pants. Maybe consider this, if the eyes don't want to see a random penis, possibly that could be considered akin to being sent an unsolicited "dick pic"

Riley Gains, one of the unfortunate locker room team mates who has experienced Leah's penis being flashed before her eyes, brought up the wider subject of transwomen participating in women's sport when speaking at San Francisco State University, there she was hit multiple times "by a guy in a dress" and then had to subsequently barricade herself in a room against the wrath of activists. It does seem that there is a hard line minority who preach under the auspices of inclusiveness but demonstrate some of the most illiberal attitudes towards anyone who takes an opposing stance, where is the empathy there?

NanKate Wed 24-May-23 20:24:32

Transwomen have infiltrated the Women’s Institute without the membership being informed and also the Girl Guides! Is there nowhere that natal women can meet together ?

I wrote to the Head office of the WI asking if the WI no longer offered ‘women only’ spaces. Their reply did not even address my question. They did however inform me they also accepted transwomen who had not transitioned, wonders will never cease.

Our mothers and grandmothers fought for women’s rights and now bit by but everything they gained is being eroded. It is a total disgrace.

Rosie51 Wed 24-May-23 20:34:01

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That society believes a man who says he's a woman rather than a woman who says he's not, shows society knows exactly who is the man and who is the woman Jen Izaacson

TerriBull Wed 24-May-23 20:44:03

And for those of us who have ever been confronted by a flasher at some point in their lives, why is it now deemed OK to be flashed in a changing room environment, particularly when the women sharing the locker room aren't happy about having that foisted upon them either????

Galaxy Wed 24-May-23 20:44:38

No men in womens spaces. We dont consent. And consent cant be given by other people. However gentle peoples friends may be they are of the Male sex and we dont segregate spaces by niceness we segregate by sex. The equality act allows for men to be excluded from sport, prison, refuges etc.
The lib dems bless them were damaged by this the last time road, they can crack on for all I care, am hoping Starmer is becoming wiser on his approach to this subject, he seems to be changing direction slightly.

GagaJo Wed 24-May-23 20:52:26

VioletSky

Successful uterus transplants have happened

Also entire face transplants

Will it be a penis of it's a donated one?

The science is on its way

Good point! Nature made. Real.

Aveline Wed 24-May-23 20:57:39

How about changing all those chromosomes then? Can't transplant them.
Germaine Greer summed it up well. "You can give me floppy ears but that doesn't make me a spaniel'.

karmalady Wed 24-May-23 21:04:48

It is all down to the chromosomes. XX = woman XY= man

That is scientific fact. The shades in between are confusing for many ie XXY

A woman with XX is the only truly woman. Let them think of new names instead of trying to steal the word woman

Fleurpepper Wed 24-May-23 21:05:54

Floppy ears can't make you into a spaniel- but your attitude and intolerance can make it into something much much worse.

Fleurpepper Wed 24-May-23 21:08:17

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Galaxy Wed 24-May-23 21:08:34

Actually the belief that you cant change sex and that single sex spaces are to be protected falls under the category of protected belief, so perhaps your intolerance is showing FP.

Iam64 Wed 24-May-23 21:17:43

Posters expressing concern about women’s rights being eroded, about young swimmers being exposed to an aroused penis on the body of the trans woman who just unfairly won the women’s race etc etc are not being nastily obsessed with chromosomes. We are expressing genuine feelings and beliefs.

Madgran77 Wed 24-May-23 21:20:24

I really don't get why it is a problem for it to be "A man has a penis". "A woman does not have a penis" "A Transwoman may have a penis!"

Smileless2012 Wed 24-May-23 21:21:07

Even if a natal woman were to have a penis transplant, she would be a trans woman not a man.

Galaxy Wed 24-May-23 21:22:18

I dont know if you heard the podcast with the female swimmer Iam64 , the description of her experience was very distressing. But those women dont count.

VioletSky Wed 24-May-23 21:22:21

Maybe Penis?

Would be a hilarious Tshirt slogan

Galaxy Wed 24-May-23 21:24:58

Yes the lib dems could wear it, as I say caused them no end of problems the last time, but bless them.

Smileless2012 Wed 24-May-23 21:34:15

a trans man not a man.

VioletSky Wed 24-May-23 21:41:09

A trans man is a trans man

SueDonim Wed 24-May-23 21:42:52

Fleurpepper

Well no, Terri- the women I am talking about have no penis, let alone in a state of arousal. And they are no risk to anyone- and the kindest, gentlest of women. They wanted to be women partly for this reason, because they did not want to be associated with the violence of men, sadly.

More stereotyping of women. 😫

VioletSky Wed 24-May-23 21:47:13

We definitely can't have positive stereotypes like kind and gentle

Shame though

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