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Will the Tories turn up to vote tomorrow?

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DaisyAnneReturns Sun 18-Jun-23 20:04:03

Or are we already without a government.

Casdon Tue 20-Jun-23 15:22:20

DaisyAnneReturns

I'm just beginning to see reports that Sunak did not have pre-arranged plans. At the weekend he was, apparently, down in the parliamentary business section as "Leading a debate in the House of Commons" on Monday afternoon and evening. That disappeared.

Although he was with the Swedish Prime Minister I doubt that they they wanted to spend the whole afternoon and evening together. Nor is it likely that the Swedish Prime Minister wouldn't understand the need to pop over the road and cast a vote. I think Sunak may have more to answer for then appeared in the first instance.

This is where he was yesterday evening.
www.thejc.com/news/politics/rishi-sunak-very-flattered-to-be-called-nice-jewish-boy-by-the-jc-7vsIl0dPoLbbzWO8dJCJ1U

GrannyGravy13 Tue 20-Jun-23 15:34:27

DaisyAnneReturns

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

Starmer voted FOR the report.

If he did, I apologise.

I thought he was elsewhere making a speech on climate change during the day and had no plans to return.

There was a political bod on the news yesterday saying that neither Mr. Sunak nor Mr. Starmer were intending to vote due to diary commitments.

I had already made this clear. One issue was that only a couple of lines in one paper told us that this is what he was going to do. Perhaps you need wider sources of information GrannyGravy.

My personal opinion is that it was better that neither leader spoke. This was about Parliment not Parties.

However, I feel they both should have voted. The motion said "That this House approves the Fifth Report from the Committee of Privileges". What is Sunak saying by not voting? Does he mean he disapproves or that he doesn't know?

I am not a news addict watching/listening/reading constantly.

I was busy all day yesterday, and only caught the news at breakfast time, didn’t watch the debate, and haven’t seen or read any news today (GC sports day).

MayBee70 Tue 20-Jun-23 16:51:09

You missed some of the best speeches I’ve heard in parliament for a long time: from MP’s from all parties (with the exception of Bridgen representing Reclaim). The whole integrity of the government of this country was at stake yesterday and, in the main, it was uplifting.

Katie59 Tue 20-Jun-23 16:51:21

I would be surprised and relieved if this was the last we see of Johnson in UK politics. He still has a lot of support inside and outside of parliament.

aquagran Tue 20-Jun-23 18:28:42

My MP is Kwasi Kwarteng. Don’t think he was there… but could be wrong!

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 20-Jun-23 18:37:27

MayBee70

You missed some of the best speeches I’ve heard in parliament for a long time: from MP’s from all parties (with the exception of Bridgen representing Reclaim). The whole integrity of the government of this country was at stake yesterday and, in the main, it was uplifting.

I have to agree about the quality of the speeches.

However I couldn't help but feel sorry for Penny Mordaunt. Why didn't other members of the cabinet sit on the front bench with her?

Dinahmo Tue 20-Jun-23 18:42:33

There were some very good speeches yesterday, apart from Bill Cash trying to muddy the waters with his erudition.

MayBee70 Tue 20-Jun-23 19:08:35

And Bridgen doing a party political speech for his Reclaim party…

Grantanow Wed 21-Jun-23 09:49:54

The answer is that most of the Tories didn't turn up to vote aye or no. About 220 abstained. Morally bankrupt in my opinion.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 21-Jun-23 11:01:39

I did think that some of the speeches supporting Johnson were a tad eccentric

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 21-Jun-23 11:53:54

My MP didn't turn up. I have emailed him to ask why. It won't change anything but it does show him that people notice.

MayBee70 Wed 21-Jun-23 13:15:34

Whitewavemark2

I did think that some of the speeches supporting Johnson were a tad eccentric

I didn’t know what they were talking about half of the time! Looking forward to my reply from Heather Wheeler. I may do a compilation of all of the letters I’ve received from her defending her beloved.