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lemsip Thu 06-Jul-23 09:28:49

Transgender paedophile, 66, is spared jail after the case was delayed over discussions about whether the pervert should go to a male or female jail.Former prison worker Tanya Howes, 66, was told by magistrates that the offences 'would normally attract immediate custody' but they made the 'unusual' decision to suspend her 12-month jail term after the debate caused a 'time lag'.

Howes, who is identified in court documents as female and referred to in court by female pronouns, previously admitted three charges of possessing www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12269001/Transgender-paedophile-66-spared-jail-case-delayed.html#comments images of children, including 39 of the most serious category A photographs, on February 19 2020.

photos.

PaperMonster Thu 06-Jul-23 11:23:31

That’s crazy. I think we all know where this individual should be locked up!

Smileless2012 Thu 06-Jul-23 11:29:49

Why couldn't they have been put into solitary until the decision as to which prison was suitable was made? Images of children, 39 of which were category A, the most serious and this vile individual's been given a suspended sentence.

A 12 month custodial sentence for having pictures like this isn't long enough anyway. The people who view them are just as culpable as those who carry out the abuse.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 06-Jul-23 11:46:17

Speechless…

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 12:22:50

The law is an ass.

Shinamae Thu 06-Jul-23 12:26:26

The world has truly has gone crazy..🤦‍♀️

Doodledog Thu 06-Jul-23 12:39:32

It is unbelievable how many advantages there are for a certain type of man to 'identify' as a woman, and use the fact that this must now be accepted for ill.

Access to vulnerable women and girls, the ability to cheat at sport and get high value prizes, the ability to commit sex crimes and avoid being incarcerated on the 'nonces'' wing of a male prison, but instead going to jail amongst women who are likely to be physically weaker and who can be raped or otherwise sexually assaulted by men who have already got a history of committing such offences.

This is without the fact that women no longer have a right to do things together (eg the WI and Guiding) without men imposing themselves 'because they can', and that meetings of feminists are now regularly disrupted by TRAs dressed as women calling for the rape and murder of so-called 'TERFs'.

This is all so detrimental to the rights of women that it is difficult to believe we have let it happen. It is time someone stepped in to reverse the way this is going, before it is too late.

sodapop Thu 06-Jul-23 12:42:23

Good post Doodledog couldn’t have put it any better.

Beckett Thu 06-Jul-23 12:48:25

I don't see why it can't be decided what prison they should be sent to if this person is still physically male then it should be a male prison - or is that too logical?

Dickens Thu 06-Jul-23 13:20:38

Doodledog

It is unbelievable how many advantages there are for a certain type of man to 'identify' as a woman, and use the fact that this must now be accepted for ill.

Access to vulnerable women and girls, the ability to cheat at sport and get high value prizes, the ability to commit sex crimes and avoid being incarcerated on the 'nonces'' wing of a male prison, but instead going to jail amongst women who are likely to be physically weaker and who can be raped or otherwise sexually assaulted by men who have already got a history of committing such offences.

This is without the fact that women no longer have a right to do things together (eg the WI and Guiding) without men imposing themselves 'because they can', and that meetings of feminists are now regularly disrupted by TRAs dressed as women calling for the rape and murder of so-called 'TERFs'.

This is all so detrimental to the rights of women that it is difficult to believe we have let it happen. It is time someone stepped in to reverse the way this is going, before it is too late.

This is without the fact that women no longer have a right to do things together (eg the WI and Guiding) without men imposing themselves 'because they can', and that meetings of feminists are now regularly disrupted by TRAs dressed as women calling for the rape and murder of so-called 'TERFs'.

Yes - women are being erased as a demographic. Whilst men are not. It's the warped patriarchy in a dress. We are a threat to them, and they've found the most lethal way to deal with it... by attempting to infiltrate and erase the very notion of womanhood.

And you are right, we have to stop it before it's too late - when opposition will be, as it is being already, completely banned from public discourse. When our jobs and even lives will be under threat for failing to be "inclusive".

GrannyGravy13 Thu 06-Jul-23 13:43:50

I agree with Doodledog and Dickens

Smileless2012 Thu 06-Jul-23 13:46:59

Too logical I'm afraid Beckett.

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 14:21:06

Well said Doodledog and Dickens.

Solitary might be the best thing * Beckett*?

dolphindaisy Thu 06-Jul-23 14:22:06

Simple - If a biological man claims to be a woman so he can go to a woman's prison he should agree to reassignment surgery first, after all, isn't that his ultimate ambition?

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 14:23:35

the Transgender Case Board

???

AGAA4 Thu 06-Jul-23 14:38:24

Is this going to be a "get out of gaol free" card for some transwomen? A man who should have been imprisoned and could be a danger to children has managed to bypass the legal system by saying he is a woman as prisons are not equipped to take him.

Glorianny Thu 06-Jul-23 14:49:54

This seems to be something to do with reports from the probation service and a time lapse. Regardless of the transgender issue it seems extraordinary that a paedophile can have a reduced sentence because of a time delay, but a 15 year old girl can be sentenced to prison 4 years after the crime. Something is wrong with the justice system.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 06-Jul-23 15:01:22

For once Glorianny I find myself agreeing with you.

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 15:09:02

Glorianny

This seems to be something to do with reports from the probation service and a time lapse. Regardless of the transgender issue it seems extraordinary that a paedophile can have a reduced sentence because of a time delay, but a 15 year old girl can be sentenced to prison 4 years after the crime. Something is wrong with the justice system.

Something is wrong with the justice system

Yes, I agree.

Doodledog Thu 06-Jul-23 15:46:07

Callistemon21

Glorianny

This seems to be something to do with reports from the probation service and a time lapse. Regardless of the transgender issue it seems extraordinary that a paedophile can have a reduced sentence because of a time delay, but a 15 year old girl can be sentenced to prison 4 years after the crime. Something is wrong with the justice system.

Something is wrong with the justice system

Yes, I agree.

Me too.

FarNorth Thu 06-Jul-23 16:20:31

Beckett

I don't see why it can't be decided what prison they should be sent to if this person is still physically male then it should be a male prison - or is that too logical?

This person, and every other male, is always physically male.

Galaxy Thu 06-Jul-23 17:02:02

Yes no men whatever they have done to their bodies in female prisons.

BeverleyJB Thu 06-Jul-23 18:21:53

Excellent posts Doodledog and Dickens.

It has happened before, including where the judge has actually said that he wouldn't sentence the male paedophile (who identifies as a woman) to a prison sentence because it would be “too difficult” for such a man to spend time either in a male or female prison.

The law really isn't an ass, it's just that so many men are wretched misogynists.

Theexwife Thu 06-Jul-23 18:34:22

I think he should go to a female prison and let the inmates punish him.

LauraNorderr Thu 06-Jul-23 18:43:25

Sadly this is very true in many areas of law.