Free Speech What Do Grans Think?

Interested, I was shocked to see you using the N word. That’s not acceptable. I have reported your post for that reason.

If King Lawal says what he has been saying it is unsurprising that people want to distance themselves from him.
This will be true of the Tory party and others who he hasbeen affiliated with. Most won't want to imply agreement.

He is welcome to say things within the law but as someone said earlier- there may be consequences!

Probably lots of us would be surprised to hear people in our own lives speak as he seems to have done and yes, it would definitely affect how I felt about them if I needed help. .

What are the criteria for earning respect?

Take notice of the good people who don't respect you to find out

Karl Popper said “in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.”

Doodledog I used to know chapter and verse (literally). Now I'm going to have to go and hunt out my 39 year old essay, lovingly preserved. Somewhere.....

He should be allowed to say and think what he likes. But he should not be allowed anywhere near this country’s political forum. What he said was nothing to do with politics and everything to do with him wanting to force his ghastly and erroneous opinions on others!

Thank you Siope.

Ailidh

*Doodledog * I used to know chapter and verse (literally). Now I'm going to have to go and hunt out my 39 year old essay, lovingly preserved. Somewhere.....

Please - don't go to any trouble . It is interesting to know that there was such a thing as a preferred view of mildew, but I'll manage with knowing that I'd rather avoid it as far as possible without knowing chapter and verse. I assume that the Bible is generally against it?

I’m going to leave this thread now without posting anything - whew! - and go to the next GN topic about decaying fruit.

Spot on Doodledog

Free speech is important - but what he did was putting his own values across by twisting the words in the bible.
To me, that is not right.
If you want to voice your opinion then do so in your own words. Don't quote a book where the meaning of the paragraph has nothing to do with whatever you are speaking about.
The Bible quote was referencing "pride" as someone being overly proud of themselves and what they do.
This may apply to some people of all sexuality so single out the events is not right. Yes, maybe he is annoyed that they have chosen the word "Pride" for the events but that is not how it comes over.

Jess20

Karl Popper said “in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.”

Karl Popper was a wise man. It's not possible to "police" people's thoughts but it is possible to "police" what people say, especially when they are representative of an organisation and the values of that organisation.

I totally agree with Skydancer.
That being said,if i have something to say,i say it,obviously if i know i am 100% correct.

He knew exactly what he was saying, was just trying to be smart. He could just as easily preached against the sin of sloth; as far as I am aware, there is no political or interest group called Sloth. To be honest, I am uncomfortable with the crossing over of religion (any religion) and politics. The previous LibDem leader Tim Farron was unable to reconcile his religious beliefs and political career when it came to single sex marriage, so he made his decision and without offending anyone.