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Charlotte Owen, Baroness Owen of Alderley Edge

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NotSpaghetti Tue 25-Jul-23 08:25:17

Youngest life peer sworn in yesterday.
This still amazes me.
And why don't we know anything about her?

Also, does this mean she lives in Alderly Edge or was born there, or her family is from there?
I love Alderly Edge!

Also, know Peers are often (always?) "of" somewhere but how is this decided?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Jul-23 13:29:37

So why the super-injunction?

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Jul-23 14:14:51

We had a friend who, throughout his career, carried out many acts of bravery and, as a consequence, saved many lives.
He was proud to have been awarded the BEM.

Goodness knows what he would have thought of the recent honours.

Foxygloves Tue 25-Jul-23 15:52:27

Grannynannywanny

The title doesn’t necessarily reflect their birthplace. Michelle Mone, renowned for her successful lingerie business and allegedly making a £65 million profit from dud covid PPE , was born in the east end of Glasgow. She is now Baroness Mone of Mayfair. You couldn’t make it up.

Baroness Mone of The Gorbals doesn’t have quite the same ring hmm

BlueBelle Tue 25-Jul-23 16:00:26

So she’s supposed to be Johnson’s daughter ? Is this one of the eight we ve heard about or an additional one ?

Freya5 Tue 25-Jul-23 16:05:31

Riverwalk

The 25 year-old new Labour MP will be subject to future elections and if he's no good his constituents can vote him out in the coming years.

This inexperienced young woman could be sitting in an arm of our Legislature, with all the privileges that brings, for the next 60 years without answering to anybody.

Ludicrous!

Yes , but the H of L is not elected. Any how they choose to obstruct, can be, and is, ignored.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Jul-23 16:15:05

Does no one know why there is a super-injunction?

I mean, she is just an ordinary young woman who worked in No 10 just like thousands before her, and got a seat in HoL, unlike thousands before her. And yet all information about her has been stopped. Why? Is it so scandalous that we can’t possibly know? Surely we are entitled to know the background of our Lords. Nothing can be as bad as someone like Lebedev surely!!

MaizieD Tue 25-Jul-23 16:15:28

BlueBelle

So she’s supposed to be Johnson’s daughter ? Is this one of the eight we ve heard about or an additional one ?

It's just one of many rumours brought about by the surname and facial resemblance. Another is that he's slept with her.

Of course, if there weren't a super injunction probably in place we might know a bit more about her.

MaizieD Tue 25-Jul-23 16:18:12

Freya5

Riverwalk

The 25 year-old new Labour MP will be subject to future elections and if he's no good his constituents can vote him out in the coming years.

This inexperienced young woman could be sitting in an arm of our Legislature, with all the privileges that brings, for the next 60 years without answering to anybody.

Ludicrous!

Yes , but the H of L is not elected. Any how they choose to obstruct, can be, and is, ignored.

They can't completely block a bill, but if it concerns something that wasn't in the manifesto the Lords can hold it up for up to 12 months.

Riverwalk Tue 25-Jul-23 16:26:50

According to Wiki her 'career' seemed to consist of a month here, two months there, all intern-type roles - whatever qualifies her to be described as a Special Adviser?

On what did she advise and what qualities and experience does she bring to the House of Lords?

A wilful act on Johnson's part, a sort of two fingers up to the political system that got rid of him.

Ramblingrose22 Tue 25-Jul-23 17:20:29

Have looked her up but not much joy. Her parents married in 1975 in the Macclesfield district.Her mother, Kathryn L, was born in 1952 so must have been around 40 when her daughter was born.

I can't see BoJo bonking a 40-year old woman (daughter born 1993). She must have got him out of some scrape with the truth (G-d knows he had enough of them) so he repaid her help that way.

Casdon Tue 25-Jul-23 17:22:43

Riverwalk

According to Wiki her 'career' seemed to consist of a month here, two months there, all intern-type roles - whatever qualifies her to be described as a Special Adviser?

On what did she advise and what qualities and experience does she bring to the House of Lords?

A wilful act on Johnson's part, a sort of two fingers up to the political system that got rid of him.

What beats me is why Sunak agreed as he must be known what the public reaction would be.

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Jul-23 17:28:12

Ramblingrose22

Have looked her up but not much joy. Her parents married in 1975 in the Macclesfield district.Her mother, Kathryn L, was born in 1952 so must have been around 40 when her daughter was born.

I can't see BoJo bonking a 40-year old woman (daughter born 1993). She must have got him out of some scrape with the truth (G-d knows he had enough of them) so he repaid her help that way.

According to one source (which has disappeared) her father died a couple of years ago, aged 91.

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Jul-23 17:30:15

Does Carrie know the reason for Ms Owen's elevation to the peerage?

It seems to be quite ludicrous.

NotSpaghetti Tue 25-Jul-23 17:34:49

If she does, Callistemon21 she's not said anything publicly as far as I know! hmm

MaizieD Tue 25-Jul-23 17:35:52

What beats me is why Sunak agreed as he must be known what the public reaction would be.

I think there's a big conspiracy of silence and 'don't rock the boat' happening around Johnson and his activities. I also suspect that Johnson has some sort of hold over Sunak.

There's something very rotten indeed about our current and recent governors...

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Jul-23 17:39:59

Yes.

mabon1 Tue 25-Jul-23 17:42:35

Many people have questioned the new 25 year old MP yet here we have a woman who will be a peer until she dies, aged 30 who hasn't done anything for which to be applauded - unbelievable and quite wrong (in my opinion)

Grannynannywanny Tue 25-Jul-23 17:46:36

I suspect young Baroness Owen knows where BJ’s skeletons are buried and perhaps this is her reward for loyalty.

BlueBelle Tue 25-Jul-23 19:12:21

I can't see BoJo bonking a 40-year old woman (daughter born 1993
Can’t you ?seems as if he’s not very fussy and neither are the various women obviously

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Jul-23 19:31:19

Objection!

40 year old women may be very attractive - 40 is not old and he would have been late 20s.

That, however, is not fair, pointing the finger at Charlotte's mother.
I'm sure there may be other reasons.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jul-23 19:34:59

Wiki can be updated/altered by anyone so I believe?

Does anyone know for sure that there is a super injunction in place?

maddyone Tue 25-Jul-23 23:26:40

I shouldn’t have thought she’s his daughter. I suspect that’s just gossip.
He gave his brother a peerage to get rid of him out of the Commons because his brother didn’t agree with what he was doing and would have voted against him. Now that’s not gossip, it’s what happened.

MaizieD Tue 25-Jul-23 23:45:19

GrannyGravy13

Wiki can be updated/altered by anyone so I believe?

Does anyone know for sure that there is a super injunction in place?

It is suspected, rather than known, because no-one seems to be talking about her in the media, nor can much be found out about her. The reason she has been given a peerage is a mystery.

Though I suppose it might be reasonable to think that Johnson did it to stick two fingers up to the constitutional conventions he's been breaking and ignoring for the past 3 years.

Yes, wiki can be edited by anyone.

FannyCornforth Wed 26-Jul-23 05:37:40

I can imagine Johnson having it away with anything with a pulse.

I can’t believe that people think that a couple of decades between people is remarkable! grin

Johnson’s mother was a Charlotte too..

BlueBelle Wed 26-Jul-23 05:45:42

I can imagine Johnson having it away with anything with a pulse
Exactly I wouldn’t imagine he would even know their age 🤣