Brexit Import controls delayed for the FOURTH TIME!

Foxygloves

^If you don't like a thread, don't join in^
That rather defeats the objective of discussion
A whole thread of “Yes, absolutely”, “I agree” and “Hear, hear” doesn’t sound much like GN’s aim of “lively discussion”

A whole thread devoted to attacking the OP doesn't make for a 'lively discussion', either.

I see a thread were people are challenging the content of the opening post as apposed to attacking the opening poster.

MaizieD

Foxygloves

If you don't like a thread, don't join in
That rather defeats the objective of discussion
A whole thread of “Yes, absolutely”, “I agree” and “Hear, hear” doesn’t sound much like GN’s aim of “lively discussion”

A whole thread devoted to attacking the OP doesn't make for a 'lively discussion', either.

But that is not the case
“Attacking” as you put it, or disagreeing, refuting or exposing as wrong WHAT has been said is closer to the truth
Widesweeping generalisations presented as gospel are always going to invite contradiction. Questioning the basis for those generalisations or the motivation for employing, them , entirely understandable.

Germanshepherdsmum

Please feel free to report me if you feel I have breached guidelines.

I don’t have an obsession with any poster, and the suggestion that I do is insulting, but I get very tired of the digs at the UK, which have been made for years under a number of usernames. As I have already said on this thread, I find them offensive.

I don't want to report you.

You are intelligent enough to understand that neither my suggestion that you are in some way obsessed, or yours that another member is obsessed would be acceptable under Talk Guidelines.

I have no idea if this poster or many posters have said the things you disagree with and therefore object to. However, it does seem that those who disagree with this posters view also seem to want to stop them expressing it on GN but that by constantly using personal attacks actuaĺly give them the oxygen to continue.

MaizieD

Foxygloves

If you don't like a thread, don't join in
That rather defeats the objective of discussion
A whole thread of “Yes, absolutely”, “I agree” and “Hear, hear” doesn’t sound much like GN’s aim of “lively discussion”

A whole thread devoted to attacking the OP doesn't make for a 'lively discussion', either.

It doesn't.

GrannyGravy13

I see a thread were people are challenging the content of the opening post as apposed to attacking the opening poster.

It's a valid topic for discussion but might attract sensible points and debate if presented more like Whitewave's post earlier.

It started at post #3, GG13

Britain is dying a gradual death since leaving the EU. Too many losses to mention, too much hassle to mention....for everyone, them and us.

Our quality of life has diminished in many, many ways.

Nothing to do with Covid or Ukraine, which Brexiteers keep convincing themselves is the issue!

End of!

Take back control my a**e!

PhilippaIII not a Britain that I recognise.

GrannyGravy13

PhilippaIII not a Britain that I recognise.

I'm struggling with that vision too.

Problems encountered here in the UK seem to be happening in many other countries too.

The Food Standards Agency doesn't seem too happy about lack of import controls

This from their 2021 report:

The report highlights two particular areas of concern. Firstly there has been a fall in the level of local authority inspections of food businesses. The situation is in the process of being repaired – in particular in food hygiene inspections of cafés and restaurants – but progress is being constrained by resource and the availability of qualified professionals.

The second is in relation to the import of food from the EU. To enhance levels of assurance on higher-risk EU food like meat, dairy and eggs, and food and feed that has come to the UK via the EU, it is essential that improved controls are put in place to the timescale that the UK Government has set out (by the end of 2023). The longer the UK operates without assurance from the exporting country that products meet the UK’s high food and feed safety standards the less confident we can be that we can effectively identify potential safety incidents.

It is vital that the UK has the ability to prevent entry of unsafe food and identify and respond to changing risks. Although we have considered these challenges carefully and put other arrangements within our control in place, they are not, in our view,sufficient. We are therefore committed to working with government departments to ensure that the introduction of these improved import controls provides high levels of protection for UK consumers.

www.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/media/document/11105-FSA-Annual%20Report%20on%20Food%20Standards-27.06.Accessible.pdf

A little snippet from the Financial Times last July

Last month, the Financial Times revealed that the FSA had warned pig farmers of illegal “white van” shipments of pork meat coming to Britain from Romania, which has been battling a surging outbreak of African swine fever in its animals.

If we depended on just British food, there would have to be food rationing or the poor would go hungry as they couldn’t afford it.

Apologies, I got it all wrong-

delayed for the FIFTH time

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/03/uk-brexit-checks-fresh-food-eu-delayed-fifth-time-reports?CMP=share_btn_fb

GrannyGravy13

I see a thread were people are challenging the content of the opening post as apposed to attacking the opening poster.

Nonssense and you know it. If the first comments say 'you don't even live here, so why are you talking about it' or words to that effect- how can that lead to a sensible discussion on the issues raised. You know this very very well.

Fleurpepper

Apologies, I got it all wrong-

delayed for the FIFTH time

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/03/uk-brexit-checks-fresh-food-eu-delayed-fifth-time-reports?CMP=share_btn_fb

😄😄😄- you’ve just managed to irritate all the moaners😄😄😄

MaizieD

A little snippet from the Financial Times last July

^Last month, the Financial Times revealed that the FSA had warned pig farmers of illegal “white van” shipments of pork meat coming to Britain from Romania, which has been battling a surging outbreak of African swine fever in its animals.^

Indeed- so the meat is not 'rotten' - there is no visible signs or smells- just massive danger for our own agricultural sector.

And NO Callistemon, those issues are not being faced by other European countries. Brexit and the failure to plan for the consequences, and the total incompetence of the Government, has left the UK wide opened to fraudsters and the mafias out there. They will exploit this as long as they can.

Fleurpepper

MaizieD

A little snippet from the Financial Times last July

^Last month, the Financial Times revealed that the FSA had warned pig farmers of illegal “white van” shipments of pork meat coming to Britain from Romania, which has been battling a surging outbreak of African swine fever in its animals.^

Indeed- so the meat is not 'rotten' - there is no visible signs or smells- just massive danger for our own agricultural sector.

And NO Callistemon, those issues are not being faced by other European countries. Brexit and the failure to plan for the consequences, and the total incompetence of the Government, has left the UK wide opened to fraudsters and the mafias out there. They will exploit this as long as they can.

There is total freedom of movement of people and goods across the EU member states.

Who knows what fraudsters and mafias are doing within the Schengen zone?

Indeed. And nothing at all, even in the pipeline, to stop them.

😄😄😄 that’s certainly one point of view

GrannyGravy13

I see a thread were people are challenging the content of the opening post as apposed to attacking the opening poster.

Exactly.
The OP seems to have changed her tune since she was told there are no probs with goods coming into the UK from Europe, which she obvs didn’t realise. So no point to the thread really.

Oreo

GrannyGravy13

I see a thread were people are challenging the content of the opening post as apposed to attacking the opening poster.

Exactly.
The OP seems to have changed her tune since she was told there are no probs with goods coming into the UK from Europe, which she obvs didn’t realise. So no point to the thread really.

Pardon? Honestly?

Germanshepherdsmum

Not this again! And OP doesn’t live in the UK or the EU.

Indeed, Maizie.

Yes, second comment.

DaisyAnneReturns

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree wwm, but the OP has something of a Brexit obsession.

It seems you may have an obsession with OP GSM.

Now, I feel I shouldn't be suggesting someone discussing another Gnetter is "obsessed". It's too close to a personal insult.

So why do you think you can keep insulting Fleurpepper in a way that seems well outside the Talk Guidelines?

Now here’s a conundrum, if being obsessed with a subject is an insult, you’ve just insulted Germanshephersmum
Actually it isn’t an insult it’s an observation. So stop invoking talk guidelines.

Fleurpepper

Oreo

GrannyGravy13

I see a thread were people are challenging the content of the opening post as apposed to attacking the opening poster.

Exactly.
The OP seems to have changed her tune since she was told there are no probs with goods coming into the UK from Europe, which she obvs didn’t realise. So no point to the thread really.

Pardon? Honestly?

Yes honestly Fleurpepper go read your own OP. You thought there were probs with EU countries sending their goods here.
Until you were told otherwise.