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Brexit Import controls delayed for the FOURTH TIME!

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Fleurpepper Mon 07-Aug-23 10:34:09

How can businesses, trying to recover from Covid and the war in Ukraine, etc- cope with not knowing if and when and how they will be able to import from EU? This is an absolute shambles- and indicates that the Tory Governement were, at the time of the Referendum, totally unprepared for the consequences, and still are clueless 7 years later.

Controls were supposed to be finally imposed from 1st of November- 11 weeks from now. Businesses, hauliers, etc, etc, are supposed to be spending much time, and costly expertise, technology, etc- preparing - AGAIN - but still have NO information at all about how it will work and be implemented- for the 4th time- in just a few weeks.

Could you really blame EU and other exporters to UK if they just decide that, in those circumstances- they will just stop exporting to UK. We are not talking here about fancy cheeses and wine, but essential goods, chemicals, medicines, parts, fruit and veg, and so much more. At the moment, the EU could export anything to the UK without any controls- yes MEAT and other stuff that could bring catastrophic disease and sub-standard electrical goods, etc.

youtu.be/Uw-NIpE5Yh8

What a shambles.

Callistemon21 Tue 08-Aug-23 12:47:47

Whitewavemark2

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

😄 I’m not sure where promoting German meat and dairy would get them. I’d seriously question their marketing techniques!

Müller yogurts for sale in this country are supposedly made in the UK - should I be worried in case they try to sneak German ones in as Müller is a German company? They are DH's favourites.

Edam cheese?
German ham?
Danish bacon (I don't buy it but I know a lot of people do)

This is really worrying.

Oh dear.

Norah Tue 08-Aug-23 12:53:46

GrannyGravy13

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

Absolutely Aldi are consistently at the top for the cheapest supermarket in the U.K., shops mainly on High Streets not out of town and full of British Products.

Indeed.

Nobody has to live rural to eat British meat/eggs/products.

Grocery stores exist!

Callistemon21 Tue 08-Aug-23 12:59:29

Whitewavemark2

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

😄 I’m not sure where promoting German meat and dairy would get them. I’d seriously question their marketing techniques!

Obviously you don't shop in Aldi or Lidl.

Lil German Week, Polish Week, Italian Week, Greek Week, French Week, Spanish Week etc

Taste of Italy, Taste of Greece, Taste of Spain and typically Aldi has a German Week twice a year ......

I'm sure none of it is rotten.

Fleurpepper Tue 08-Aug-23 13:03:53

Norah

GrannyGravy13

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

Absolutely Aldi are consistently at the top for the cheapest supermarket in the U.K., shops mainly on High Streets not out of town and full of British Products.

Indeed.

Nobody has to live rural to eat British meat/eggs/products.

Grocery stores exist!

No indeed- which is why I added 'those with the means to do so.

We are not talking about Aldi, Lidl, etc- and I am not talking about 'rotten food' either.

Fleurpepper Tue 08-Aug-23 13:05:37

GrannyGravy13

OK Fleurpepper if you think my post of 10.13 is rude and verging on bullying you please report it.

Just too pathetic to report, same old, same old. Water over a duck's back.

Callistemon21 Tue 08-Aug-23 13:06:50

Fleurpepper

Norah

GrannyGravy13

prestbury

: No, a million times no. Buy British is for those in rural areas and those with the means to do so.

Even though a large German supermarket chain (Aldi) strongly promotes their British products, especially meat and dairy which is almost entirely British

Absolutely Aldi are consistently at the top for the cheapest supermarket in the U.K., shops mainly on High Streets not out of town and full of British Products.

Indeed.

Nobody has to live rural to eat British meat/eggs/products.

Grocery stores exist!

No indeed- which is why I added 'those with the means to do so.

We are not talking about Aldi, Lidl, etc- and I am not talking about 'rotten food' either.

At the moment, the EU could export anything to the UK without any controls- yes MEAT and other stuff that could bring catastrophic disease

Rotten food.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 08-Aug-23 13:09:14

Fleurpepper your OP mentions meat and other stuff that could bring catastrophic disease

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 08-Aug-23 13:09:34

Perhaps you would explain what you mean by ‘those with the means to do so’ and why you exclude the big discount supermarkets Aldi and Lidl from the discussion fp.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 08-Aug-23 13:09:52

Callistemon21 oops crossed posts

Fleurpepper Tue 08-Aug-23 13:15:00

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper your OP mentions ^meat and other stuff that could bring catastrophic disease^

That does not mean it is rotten. Meat that could carry foot and mouth or TB, or other diseases, don't have to be 'rotten'.

Below quality goods, including meat, will not find their way into large super markets, mostly.

As for skiing, NO it was not me, but Norah, I believe- and I responded. It is a fact that holidays have become a lot more expensive for UK residents, due to inflation all over, including EU and rest of the world combined with the low value of Sterling.

westendgirl Tue 08-Aug-23 13:16:00

Callistemon, Muller yoghurts are made in Market Drayton and have been for a long time.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 08-Aug-23 13:21:34

Fleurpepper

GrannyGravy13

OK Fleurpepper if you think my post of 10.13 is rude and verging on bullying you please report it.

Just too pathetic to report, same old, same old. Water over a duck's back.

I am sorry but I do not recognise the U.K. that the you are posting about.

Just because I do not agree with your OP does not make me a bully online or in real life.

If you think my comments are pathetic, so be it.

Callistemon21 Tue 08-Aug-23 13:36:58

westendgirl

Callistemon, Muller yoghurts are made in Market Drayton and have been for a long time.

Yes, I know, westendgirl but they could try to sneak German-produced ones in by the back door 😲
Just imagine!!

Callistemon21 Tue 08-Aug-23 13:40:37

Whitewavemark2

I think that there is absolutely no question that Brexit is dead.

The question is, where do we go from here?

I think the first thing is to begin an education programme for the voter, in order that everyone understands when decisions are made relating perhaps to closer working, greater immigration etc.

Well, that would have been a sensible OP which could have started a reasonable discussion.

When an OP is full of pearl-clutching hyperbole, much of it open to questioning, then it makes reasonable debate difficult.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 08-Aug-23 13:45:06

Or even impossible.

MerylStreep Tue 08-Aug-23 13:49:53

Vegansrock
I have no problem with people making comments on my home town or country. What I do have, is, a problem with people who live hundreds of miles away believing they know more about my town and country than I do.

Foxygloves Tue 08-Aug-23 13:57:11

problem with people who live hundreds of miles away believing they know more about my town and country than I do

That is the nub of it.
Along with the unrealistic and blatantly incorrect generalisations eg about only those rich enough or in rural areas having access to British produced food.
BTW
Is there any relevance at all in the observation that EU properties are not selling to UK buyers? (Or “Brits”)
Maybe those selfsame “Brits” have realised the grass is not always greener in Provence?

Norah Tue 08-Aug-23 14:03:32

Foxygloves

^problem with people who live hundreds of miles away believing they know more about my town and country than I do^

That is the nub of it.
Along with the unrealistic and blatantly incorrect generalisations eg about only those rich enough or in rural areas having access to British produced food.
BTW
Is there any relevance at all in the observation that EU properties are not selling to UK buyers? (Or “Brits”)
Maybe those selfsame “Brits” have realised the grass is not always greener in Provence?

Indeed. Rolled up in one post! Thank you.

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 08-Aug-23 14:05:37

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree wwm, but the OP has something of a Brexit obsession.

It seems you may have an obsession with OP GSM.

Now, I feel I shouldn't be suggesting someone discussing another Gnetter is "obsessed". It's too close to a personal insult.

So why do you think you can keep insulting Fleurpepper in a way that seems well outside the Talk Guidelines?

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 08-Aug-23 14:11:45

Please feel free to report me if you feel I have breached guidelines.

I don’t have an obsession with any poster, and the suggestion that I do is insulting, but I get very tired of the digs at the UK, which have been made for years under a number of usernames. As I have already said on this thread, I find them offensive.

MaizieD Tue 08-Aug-23 14:15:02

Well, that would have been a sensible OP which could have started a reasonable discussion.

Not if Fp had started it, it wouldn't. The attack dogs would have been straight in.

If you don't like a thread, don't join in.

MerylStreep Tue 08-Aug-23 14:17:42

DaisyAnnReturns
As GSM has said, there have many digs at the uk under different usernames. I take that as personal.

Foxygloves Tue 08-Aug-23 14:17:45

If you don't like a thread, don't join in
That rather defeats the objective of discussion
A whole thread of “Yes, absolutely”, “I agree” and “Hear, hear” doesn’t sound much like GN’s aim of “lively discussion” hmm

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 08-Aug-23 14:20:45

Maybe DAR is unaware of the different usernames, and therefore doesn’t know for how long we have endured criticism of the UK, much of it unfounded as with the comments about availability of British food on this thread.

MaizieD Tue 08-Aug-23 14:42:23

The UK hasn't been self sufficient in food since the 19th C. According to government figures (2022) only about half the food we eat is produced in the UK.

Remove all imported foodstuffs from the supply chain and we would be in a very sorry state.

Do stop thinking that we'd be fine just buying British. We wouldn't.

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/united-kingdom-food-security-report-2021/united-kingdom-food-security-report-2021-theme-2-uk-food-supply-sources