Lee Anderson, Conservative deputy chair says asylum seekers should ‘fuck off back to France’ if they don’t want to be housed on the Bobby Stockholm barge

Kandinsky

*Me neither. the vast majority of your 'circles', not mine. Do I remember corrrectly that you were a paid member of Farage's 'party'?*

I’m not talking about ‘my circles’ I’m talking about the country as a whole. And yes, I’m pretty certain the majority of the country agree with him.
Of course I don’t know that for sure, but then neither do you.
And as for me being ‘a paid up member of Farage’s party’. Do you mean UKIP? the party who got us out of the EU? The party millions of us agreed with? The party who changed UK history? You make an entirely legal party sound like some banned underground movement 😂
But just so you know ( & so you can update your notes ). I’ve never been a paid up member of any political party, not that it’s any of your business.

So not a member, and I have no notes, just a good memory. There are ways and ways to support a Politician and his campaigns, apart from being a member btw. Your comment certainly indicates clearly that you support him all the way. May I remind you that his party has been wiped off the face of the UK since ... so that would state that few support his goals, no?

Plenty of entirely legal parties in the past were legal - and look what happened.

08:23Fleurpepper

So what if Kandinsky supports or doesn't support Nigel Farage or UKIP who are still a political party by the way, what's it got to do with you.

Sparklefizz

Sparklefizz

France receives a much larger number of asylum seekers than Britain – around 113,000 in the year ending March 2022

Please look at the size of France on a map or globe and take note that it's a much bigger country than Britain. There can be no comparison.

The population density of Britain is 274.9 per sq km. and of France 123.7 per sq km. Our population density is more than twice that of France.

But do a comparison with Italy Sparklefizz and the argument doesn’t stack up. This expectation people have that France somehow has a responsibility for keeping people needs to be knocked on the head. We need to move on from Little Britain.

westendgirl

Maddy one you say Britain is not a racist country but look at some of the posts on here, which if not explicitly racist come across as verging towards.

Oh for goodness sake! To say we don’t need any more people from other countries is not being racist!!! You know full well that in recent posts people have spoken well of Ugandan Asians, Ukrainians have been welcomed but because many of us say we do not want illegal or economic migrants you call us racists.

As this thread is as much about the language used as the sentiment expressed, may I ask all of those GNs on here, who took such exception to Miriam Margoyles using the word 'Tw#t' on a previous discussion, but are now accepting, and even approving?, of the 'salty' language of Lee Anderson, was it because she is a woman swearing, but it's okay for a man to do the same?

MerylStreep

Asylum seekers can apply to work after 12 months. That is on the proviso that the delay was no fault of theirs.

That’s interesting MS I wonder how many of them actually do this?

Primrose , I didn't call you racist , so please get off your high horse. A little more pity and an effort to try and understand the desperation of some of these people wouldn't come amiss.
You cannot prove that these asylum seekers are economic migrants. No one can until they have been processed. So please call for earlier processing and more of it.

Nicenanny3

08:23Fleurpepper

So what if Kandinsky supports or doesn't support Nigel Farage or UKIP who are still a political party by the way, what's it got to do with you.

UKIP are now the Reform Party. Having said that the Conservative Party have pretty much morphed into UKIP .

GrannyGravy13

MerylStreep

Asylum seekers can apply to work after 12 months. That is on the proviso that the delay was no fault of theirs.

That’s interesting MS I wonder how many of them actually do this?

It's not unconditional.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/working-whilst-an-asylum-claim-is-considered/working-in-the-uk-whilst-an-asylum-case-is-considered

(Oh, that's weird, the copied &pasted address to this document had a 'p' added to the end when in transition. When I tested the link before posting it led to a 'page not found' message. Removing the errant 'p' made it work. Very strange)

I thought that Brexit was going to bring an end to us having so many people entering the country? Or am I missing something here?

Nicenanny3

08:23Fleurpepper

So what if Kandinsky supports or doesn't support Nigel Farage or UKIP who are still a political party by the way, what's it got to do with you.

Exactly.👏👏👏

09:07MayBee70

Nicenanny3

08:23Fleurpepper

So what if Kandinsky supports or doesn't support Nigel Farage or UKIP who are still a political party by the way, what's it got to do with you.

UKIP are now the Reform Party. Having said that the Conservative Party have pretty much morphed into UKIP .

Your wrong UKIP is still an active political party, Nigel Farage is now with Reform

MayBee70

Nicenanny3

08:23Fleurpepper

So what if Kandinsky supports or doesn't support Nigel Farage or UKIP who are still a political party by the way, what's it got to do with you.

UKIP are now the Reform Party. Having said that the Conservative Party have pretty much morphed into UKIP .

UKIP still exists, it’s led by Neil Hamilton. It may only have two members though.

I wouldn't know how many members UKIP or any political party has, I don't belong to any Party.

Casdon

MayBee70

Nicenanny3

08:23Fleurpepper

So what if Kandinsky supports or doesn't support Nigel Farage or UKIP who are still a political party by the way, what's it got to do with you.

UKIP are now the Reform Party. Having said that the Conservative Party have pretty much morphed into UKIP .

UKIP still exists, it’s led by Neil Hamilton. It may only have two members though.

So, what’s it campaigning to be independent of then?

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DaisyAnneReturns ?

Ok Casdon But do a comparison with Italy Sparklefizz and the argument doesn’t stack up.

Italy population density 195.3
Britain population density 274.9

We still have a much higher population density, so my argument does stack up.

Maremia

As this thread is as much about the language used as the sentiment expressed, may I ask all of those GNs on here, who took such exception to Miriam Margoyles using the word 'Tw#t' on a previous discussion, but are now accepting, and even approving?, of the 'salty' language of Lee Anderson, was it because she is a woman swearing, but it's okay for a man to do the same?

Nope.

As my MIL would have said , he should wash out his mouth with soap.
Or, as DH says, if you have to resort to foul language, you've already lost the argument.

MayBee70

Casdon

MayBee70

Nicenanny3

08:23Fleurpepper

So what if Kandinsky supports or doesn't support Nigel Farage or UKIP who are still a political party by the way, what's it got to do with you.

UKIP are now the Reform Party. Having said that the Conservative Party have pretty much morphed into UKIP .

UKIP still exists, it’s led by Neil Hamilton. It may only have two members though.

So, what’s it campaigning to be independent of then?

😂
Perhaps England wants to break away from RUK!
Although he is Welsh 🤔

Neil Hamilton would also morph into the Tories if he could but he got chucked out for corruption. That was in the days that corruption was not seen as a virtue.😄

Well that's a novel approach to solving a world wide issue, allocate refugees according to which countries have the lowest population densities! Canada, Australia, Iceland all have a density around 3. Actually Syria (126) has a lower density than either Italy or the UK! Hang on though, people are leaving Syria. What about Afganistan? Density 65, people are leaving there too. What about Ukraine at 63, that must be a candidate, but people are leaving there as well.
I'm not an economist but there is a strong link between GDP and population demography but using something as crude as population density to determine which countries should offer asylum is a complete nonsense. With the UK's current demography there's a very strong argument that we should be welcoming fit young people.

Well done who ever got my post deleteted. It appears the prejudice is not only on the 13 pages of mainly basically racist comments.

DaisyAnneReturns

Well done who ever got my post deleteted. It appears the prejudice is not only on the 13 pages of mainly basically racist comments.

Ignore and keep posting your thoughts, they are always of interest to me and others. Only speaking for myself but I like people with strong opinions as long as they are not too far off my own but I would never try to close down a discussion because someone strongly agreed with me.

Paperbackwriter

Some of you on here need to check your bigotry and remember that there is nothing illegal about seeking asylum. As for the term 'economic migrants', that applies to anyone who works in a country other than their own. Some on here may be among those numbers. Perhaps if the British could get their heads round the truth that this also makes them 'migrants' and not the 'expats' they like to think they are, we might have more equality in the world. Just thank the lord that none of you are likely to need to flee your country in a flimsy boat.

Well said Paperbackwriter