We’re rejoining the Horizon programme….

😀 snap

There have been EU flags at the Last Night of the Proms for a number of years now. No-one has complained before...

MaizieD

There have been EU flags at the Last Night of the Proms for a number of years now. No-one has complained before...

Last stand 😀😀

25Avalon Between 1870 and 1945, 75 years, there were three major European wars. The first the Franco-Prussian war (1870-71), then WW1 (1914-18) aand finally WW2 (1939-45). Since 1945 and with the formation of the EU there have been no major trans-European conflicts.

The purpose of European cooperation was to try to end war between European countries by building up a network of co-operation between countries in major industry.

The first organisation was the European Coal and Steel Community, which aimed at integrating the operation of the iron and staeel industry in Europe. This was far more than a mere trade agreement, political co-operation was at its heart and the political co-operstion at the heart of European Community in all its forms has never been hidden. Its purpose was to ensure that wars like WW" never happened again in Europe. This purpose was never hidden and was always overt and spoken about.

Research done by the LSE after the 2016 referendum showed that while older voters, as a group were more likely to vote to leave the EU, when the attitudes and votes of the over 75s, people who had memories of the war, were analysed they were far more likely to vote to remain because they fully understood the political basis of the EU and its predecessors and with memories of the war and its immdiate aftermath, valued the peace Europe had had since 1945 and recognised how important Europeaan cooperation had been to . logs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2019/03/21/not-all-the-over-65s-are-in-favour-of-brexit-britains-wartime-generation-are-almost-as-pro-eu-as-millennial

monica absolutely - my mother born 1918 was appalled as was my aunt born 1928. They thought the country had gone mad, with very short memories.

Sorry folks, back to the flags, yes, musicians were badly let down by BREXIT, and not just the elite ones URMS. Lots of working class musicians and performers find it very very difficult to try to get exposure and experience in Europe. Didn't the Beatles start out in Germany? UK Cruise line performers lost their jobs with European operating companies, who found the tsunami of forms too much to deal with.

Great post, MOnica 👏

maizie thanks for that. Not only can’t I do links unless it is part of the cut and paste, but now I can’t post from the saved stuff to my photos. My I-pad is useless - or I suppose it could be me🤔

Whitewavemark2

maizie thanks for that. Not only can’t I do links unless it is part of the cut and paste, but now I can’t post from the saved stuff to my photos. My I-pad is useless - or I suppose it could be me🤔

I think you have confused threads here, Wwmk2

Mind you, I still don't understand why you can't do links on your ipad. I've a mini ipad and it does links just fine...

😀oh yes.

God knows - it is my total incompetence I think.

I’ll ask one of the children next time they are over - if I remember.

Maremia

Sorry folks, back to the flags, yes, musicians were badly let down by BREXIT, and not just the elite ones URMS. Lots of working class musicians and performers find it very very difficult to try to get exposure and experience in Europe. Didn't the Beatles start out in Germany? UK Cruise line performers lost their jobs with European operating companies, who found the tsunami of forms too much to deal with.

Lots of bands that are now longer popular here are still popular in Europe and tour extensively, along with people like a friend of mine that is a roadie/sound man. It’s been difficult for them. It was just mentioned on the lunchtime politics programme that Johnson ( one of the ‘brains’ behind Brexit), who was foreign Secretary at the time, went up to Barry Gardiner one day and asked him ‘ Barry, what exactly is the customs union’…..

Yes Maybe70, they didn't know and they didn't care.

Kandinsky

I’ve been on GN for years and the only posters I’ve seen hurling insults around have been remainers.
They still ‘demand’ leavers give their reasons for voting brexit ( 10 years on) still insist leavers have ruined their lives & stolen their children’s futures etc etc - no wonder hardly any leavers post on this board.
The vast, vast, majority of people on the news & politics board are anti government, & anti brexit, and a few have been extremely insulting over the years. One or two possibly even banned as I haven’t seen one particular one in a while.
So all this singling out one leave voter as ‘okay’ is quite insulting in itself don’t you think? It just means the rest of us are inferior species who can’t string a sentence together.
So yes, an insult in disguise.

Not an insult at all Kandinsky

Urms has been singled out because she's charming and witty in her posts and comes across as a very likeable person.

... and the point being made is that you can be at polar opposites politically and still be friends - and Urms makes that quite easy.

As of August 2023, 55 percent of people in Great Britain thought that it was wrong to leave the European Union, compared with 33 percent who thought it was the right decision. www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/

Maremia

Sorry folks, back to the flags, yes, musicians were badly let down by BREXIT, and not just the elite ones URMS. Lots of working class musicians and performers find it very very difficult to try to get exposure and experience in Europe. Didn't the Beatles start out in Germany? UK Cruise line performers lost their jobs with European operating companies, who found the tsunami of forms too much to deal with.

Didn't the Beatles start out in Germany?

That was in 1960, way before the UK was allowed to join the EEC and before the EU was in existed.

existence, sorry.