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Any Gnetters at the Rejoin march today in London

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Fleurpepper Sat 23-Sept-23 15:05:02

oh I wish I was there. Looks like a great crowd. The BBC will say there were a handful, of course.

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 13:36:50

most people on Gn and elsewhere, have quietly accepted that Brexit was a huge mistake

I think many of us we knew that so voted to remain.
We realise it was poorly thought through.

But we accept a democratic vote in this country as well as the result of the subsequent GE, and, instead of wailing and gnashing of teeth, get on with it and hope that better a relationship with our neighbours can be achieved in the future.

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 13:37:48

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Mind you, the dogs too- as they are often illegally imported from Eastern Europe, and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK.

Are you saying that there are no checks on the journey through EU Countries from Eastern Europe Fleurpepper ?

Oh my goodness - we don't want to import rabies from the EU!!
😲

CoolCoco Sun 24-Sept-23 13:37:51

We were also told we could make our own regulations - the useless UKCA quietly dropped and the only regulations we’ve changed have been for the worse - sewage in the sea, bee killing pesticides allowed etc.

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 13:39:29

CoolCoco

Perhaps not rejoin but no reason why we can’t aim for closer relationship a la Norway, which we were actually promised by the likes of Farage, Brexit has cost us billions, far from saving money, and continues to devalue our GDP every year, so another Brexit lie, as well as the lies about improving our public services- they’ve got worse, and cutting immigration - it’s gone up. We were also led to believe the EU would collapse without us - it hasn’t and we’d all be better off - we aren’t. So many lies.

Yes, that's what mean about the referendum being poorly thought out.

I think most people would have wanted to retain a trade agreement and other links.

CoolCoco Sun 24-Sept-23 13:40:20

Perhaps not rejoin but we could aim for closer ties a la Norway which we were promised, alongside saving money , when it’s cost us billions and will continue to do so in lost GDP . What about all the lies that our public services would improve and immigration would fall when it’s gone up sinceBrexit.

Fleurpepper Sun 24-Sept-23 14:35:14

Kandinsky

*and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK*

Really?
Wow.
Do drug dealers know this?

Oh yes, and the mafia too.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 14:40:13

Fleurpepper

Kandinsky

and there are currently not checks for goods, etc, coming into UK

Really?
Wow.
Do drug dealers know this?

Oh yes, and the mafia too.

No the mafia are ensconced in Sicily and running Italy

Fleurpepper Sun 24-Sept-23 14:45:05

Oh dear, little do you know.

Fleurpepper Sun 24-Sept-23 14:49:26

Callistemon 'But we accept a democratic vote in this country'

it has been proven beyond any doubts that there was nothing democratic about this Referendum. So much so that, had it been binding instead of advisory, it would have been annuled by the Electoral Commission.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 14:49:46

Fleurpepper

Oh dear, little do you know.

Oh please do enlighten…

MaizieD Sun 24-Sept-23 14:57:42

maddyone

Cost of living - Covid, war in Ukraine, increased energy costs, the 2008 crash which we have not recovered from

NHS - insufficient investment

Net zero - alignment with Europe

We hadn't recovered from 2008 because of Osborne's needless insistence on cutting public spending. Much of our woes stem from that (including Brexit)

Nonetheless, the Office of National Statistics forecast a 4% drop in GDP and holds to it, regardless of other issues. Note that the EU recovered from the covid measures far better than the UK.

Lack of inward (or any other) investment because of our poor economic performance as a result of Brexit and there is no prospect of improvement.

No use blaming other factors when other countries have experienced the same and have recovered faster.

We were ahead of the EU as far as net zero was concerned. No particular virtue in backsliding.

If we were to implement those Brexit border controls the cost of living would increase with the added expense they would generate. Note, it's been deferred several times for that very reason.

What did happen to £350 million a week extra for the NHS? hmm

MaizieD Sun 24-Sept-23 15:06:19

Callistemon21

CoolCoco

Perhaps not rejoin but no reason why we can’t aim for closer relationship a la Norway, which we were actually promised by the likes of Farage, Brexit has cost us billions, far from saving money, and continues to devalue our GDP every year, so another Brexit lie, as well as the lies about improving our public services- they’ve got worse, and cutting immigration - it’s gone up. We were also led to believe the EU would collapse without us - it hasn’t and we’d all be better off - we aren’t. So many lies.

Yes, that's what mean about the referendum being poorly thought out.

I think most people would have wanted to retain a trade agreement and other links.

There was no plan. No-one had a plan for a Leave vote.

Not only was the referendum 'poorly thought out', but the consequences of a Leave vote weren't thought about at all.

All those wonderful promises made by the Leave campaigners were male cow excrement.

nanna8 Sun 24-Sept-23 15:16:49

Well the Mafia are in Australia but maybe the UK is too cold for them ?

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 15:30:17

Any Gnetters at the Rejoin march today in London

Anyone?

Not even Gransnetters who are still incensed and upset?

pascal30 Sun 24-Sept-23 16:02:03

Fleurpepper

oh I wish I was there. Looks like a great crowd. The BBC will say there were a handful, of course.

I doubt whether the BBC will cover it... I'm fully supportive and asubscriber to the movement who organised this

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 16:05:24

But no-one on the thread so far went to it?

silverlining48 Sun 24-Sept-23 16:12:21

This is the first I have heard about the demonstration.

silverlining48 Sun 24-Sept-23 16:13:36

How did you find out calistemon?

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 16:14:32

silverlining48

How did you find out calistemon?

From this thread, silverlining

Oreo Sun 24-Sept-23 16:31:16

Nobody from GN went to the protest then, and most hadn’t even heard it was happening Callistemon it looks like.
Your right, we just get on with life and do the things we enjoy with family and friends, that’s what lifes about right?😃

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 16:34:09

Oreo

Nobody from GN went to the protest then, and most hadn’t even heard it was happening Callistemon it looks like.
Your right, we just get on with life and do the things we enjoy with family and friends, that’s what lifes about right?😃

We hope that the politicians can sort out some arrangement with the EU that both sides would be happy with.
That's why we pay them.
If we don't like what they do then we don't vote for them.

Although it does look as if the King might be a better negotiator than any we've tried so far.

varian Sun 24-Sept-23 17:08:24

BBC coverage nowhere to be seen as European news channels broadcast re-join march

Protesters against the UK’s exit from the European Union have labelled the move “a huge mistake” as they campaigned to re-join the bloc.

A large crowd of pro-EU protestors gathered outside the Hilton hotel on Park Lane in west London for the National Rejoin March (NRM) on Saturday.

Thousands of people dressed in blue clothing and carrying EU flags filled the pavement ahead of the march through the city’s streets, which was due to culminate with a rally at Parliament Square.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/bbc-coverage-nowhere-to-be-seen-as-european-news-channels-broadcast-re-join-march-359411/

varian Sun 24-Sept-23 17:09:27

Can there be a greater self-indictment by the BBC of just how gripped by a politically motivated executive they have become as to not reporting one the U.K.’s largest rallies of the year about one of the U.K.’s most defining issues of the last decade?

Dr Dan Goyal

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 17:12:28

varian

Can there be a greater self-indictment by the BBC of just how gripped by a politically motivated executive they have become as to not reporting one the U.K.’s largest rallies of the year about one of the U.K.’s most defining issues of the last decade?

Dr Dan Goyal

Yet your esteemed leader (Sir Ed Davey) is on record (BBC) as saying voters aren’t talking about Brexit anymore

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 17:13:56

I think that the three Right to Food rallies were far more relevant and important than a rejoin march