Any Gnetters at the Rejoin march today in London

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Callistemon21

^Any Gnetters at the Rejoin march today in London^

Anyone?

Not even Gransnetters who are still incensed and upset?

Several of the friends I used to march with are either dead or suffering from ill health. Or, like me, can’t afford to travel to London and are worried about catching covid. A lot has happened in the past four years, unfortunately.

I know several people who where there and would have been myself if we didn't have several of the family with Covid.

GrannyGravy13

I think that the three Right to Food rallies were far more relevant and important than a ^rejoin march^

And you just can't, or won't, see how the two are so closely related?

Fleurpepper

GrannyGravy13

I think that the three Right to Food rallies were far more relevant and important than a ^rejoin march^

And you just can't, or won't, see how the two are so closely related?

Like I asked you upthread to enlighten us with regards to the mafia, please tell what being out of the EU has to do with low wages in the U.K. ?

The EU hasn’t got any problems with the slave like conditions of Africans working in the thousands of square meters of poly tunnels in Spain producing fruit, salad and vegetables for the EU, or the subsequent plastics pollution and excess water usage…

These workers are paid a pittance and forced to live in unsanitary, unsafe and inhumane conditions!

They have their passports and travel documents confiscated on arrival!

And the UK is quite happy to import the food they pick!

Fleurpepper

And the UK is quite happy to import the food they pick!

The entire EU buys Spanish produce, I and most people/family I know avoid it like the plague.

Farm shops and U.K. seasonal produce is best for our carbon footprint.

I am about to cook a roast dinner, every item is U.K. bred and grown, the majority less than 5 miles from my home.

Well yes, good for you. So no bananas, oranges, tangerines, grapes, pineapples, strawberries and other berries or tomatoes, cucumbers, out of season, avocados, wine,, etc, etc, etc.

Fleurpepper

Well yes, good for you. So no bananas, oranges, tangerines, grapes, pineapples, strawberries and other berries or tomatoes, cucumbers, out of season, avocados, wine,, etc, etc, etc.

Fleurpepper are you seriously suggesting that Spain is the only exporter of that produce, you really are very funny.

There are problems all over Europe and indeed all over the world. No one can possibly know yet how successful Brexit has been. We were in the Common Market and its reincarnations for over 40 years. Why does anyone think we will be able to see the real benefits of leaving before 2056?

GrannyRose15

There are problems all over Europe and indeed all over the world. No one can possibly know yet how successful Brexit has been. We were in the Common Market and its reincarnations for over 40 years. Why does anyone think we will be able to see the real benefits of leaving before 2056?

Because they told us that we held all the cards and people were queuing up to negotiate trade deals with us. Obama told us the a trade deal with America was unlikely and India’s possible trade deal with us if full of conditions. No one said 7 years ago that it would take 50 years to reap any benefits. And we were also going to control our own borders and stop illegal immigration. None of that is going very well, is it ( or am I missing something; I’m happy to be educated). And, if we’ve been in the common market/EU for forty years, using the same argument maybe we should have waited another ten years to reap the benefits?

Pointless. I voted to stay, but going back in would impose conditions that we never wanted.

I do think we should try for a more co-operative/friendly relationship with the EU,

Fleurpepper

Well yes, good for you. So no bananas, oranges, tangerines, grapes, pineapples, strawberries and other berries or tomatoes, cucumbers, out of season, avocados, wine,, etc, etc, etc.

🤔
Oh dear.

DiamondLily

Pointless. I voted to stay, but going back in would impose conditions that we never wanted.

I do think we should try for a more co-operative/friendly relationship with the EU,

What conditions will they be?

MayBee70

Callistemon21

Any Gnetters at the Rejoin march today in London

Anyone?

Not even Gransnetters who are still incensed and upset?

Several of the friends I used to march with are either dead or suffering from ill health. Or, like me, can’t afford to travel to London and are worried about catching covid. A lot has happened in the past four years, unfortunately.

I couldn't march to the bus station to catch the bus to London. Not that I'd want to go again.

Only, FleurPepper asked the question and no-one answered.

I didn’t march, yesterday was my only free Saturday for the next four weeks

varian

Can there be a greater self-indictment by the BBC of just how gripped by a politically motivated executive they have become as to not reporting one the U.K.’s largest rallies of the year about one of the U.K.’s most defining issues of the last decade?

Dr Dan Goyal

It's being reported as hundreds on France 24 and thousands by various British news media outlets.

It seems to have been rather a damp squib.

silverlining48

How did you find out calistemon?

If you join Rejoin EU they will send you emails Silverlining

The EU hasn’t got any problems with the slave like conditions of Africans working in the thousands of square meters of poly tunnels in Spain producing fruit, salad and vegetables for the EU, or the subsequent plastics pollution and excess water usage …

Shocking, isn't it!

I was so upset to see the workers being interviewed on TV.

MayBee70

GrannyRose15

There are problems all over Europe and indeed all over the world. No one can possibly know yet how successful Brexit has been. We were in the Common Market and its reincarnations for over 40 years. Why does anyone think we will be able to see the real benefits of leaving before 2056?

Because they told us that we held all the cards and people were queuing up to negotiate trade deals with us. Obama told us the a trade deal with America was unlikely and India’s possible trade deal with us if full of conditions. No one said 7 years ago that it would take 50 years to reap any benefits. And we were also going to control our own borders and stop illegal immigration. None of that is going very well, is it ( or am I missing something; I’m happy to be educated). And, if we’ve been in the common market/EU for forty years, using the same argument maybe we should have waited another ten years to reap the benefits?

Precisely, MayBee70

It might be my senior memory failing me but I don't recall any of the Leave campaigners in the run up to the referendum telling us that we wouldn't see any benefits for 50 years...

Maybe70

No one said seven years ago that if we voted to leave people who voted the other way would make life so difficult that it would take us nearly 7 years to get a settlement. No one told us seven years ago that the EU would be so petty as to block sensible suggestions as to the way forward for the benefit of us all. Every policy that is put forward to take advantage of Brexit is scuppered or watered down by remainers. It doesn’t help of course that there are plenty of remainers in every party.

We are out now. Let’s stay out and work with what we have. Not continually harp back to the mighty pleasure dome that was the EU. Whatever it was in the past or might have become in the future had we stayed, it is not the same now.

There is no prospect of rejoining the EU anytime soon, it needs the unanimous agreement of all members, that’s not likely for a long time. Starmer is talking about “co-operation” for that read accepting their rules in some areas, they are going to insist on freedom of movement as a first step to membership and I don’t expect that to be popular

The reality is that we had a lot of influence when we were members, now we have practically none, if/when we rejoin it will be their rules