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Would the Tories dare to hoist yet another prime minister onto the country?

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Jan-24 19:09:28

The call for sacking Sunak appears to be getting louder.

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 21-Jan-24 07:49:43

maddyone

I have no idea what’s going on as I’m in New Zealand as I’ve said before, but I’ll just put my four penneth worth in.
I don’t like Sunak and feel he is ineffective as PM. I think he wanted the role to improve his global image.

We are certainly doing lots of deals with, or behaving in ways that are of advantage to India, currently. This may be coincidence and due to India's growing influence on the world stage but watching those in Wales, whose income will be mainly wage dependant, lose their jobs to the advantage of others in India whose income is mainly wealth dependant does not sit well with me.

Tata Steel Limited is an Indian multinational steel-making company, based in Jamshedpur, Jharkhand and headquartered in Mumbai, Maharashtra.

Mamie Sun 21-Jan-24 09:19:25

ronib

The point is that in France, there is system where a President stands for election, wins the vote and “he is much better than anyone else”. Although arguably, it doesn’t work out like that in the USA. However, in the UK , the electorate does not have the opportunity to vote for a leader of the country in such a direct way. So French voters are more invested and connected to their own political hierarchy than in the UK?

I think what I have come to understand over the years, is how deeply invested the values of the Republic (liberty, equality, fraternity) are, both overtly and in the national psyche. Voting, debating politics and demonstrating when you don't like it, are part of that. You are expected to do what is required of you as a citizen and in return the state looks after you.
It is very different from how the UK is now.

Louella12 Sun 21-Jan-24 09:54:20

I don't like Rishi. I think he'll go down as one of the worst PM's ever.

However there was never a chance he would leave. Just MSM babbling away.

MaizieD Sun 21-Jan-24 11:48:19

I think you could say that about any of our PMs for the last 14 years... it's hard to pick the worst one...

MayBee70 Sun 21-Jan-24 15:48:36

DaisyAnneReturns

maddyone

I have no idea what’s going on as I’m in New Zealand as I’ve said before, but I’ll just put my four penneth worth in.
I don’t like Sunak and feel he is ineffective as PM. I think he wanted the role to improve his global image.

We are certainly doing lots of deals with, or behaving in ways that are of advantage to India, currently. This may be coincidence and due to India's growing influence on the world stage but watching those in Wales, whose income will be mainly wage dependant, lose their jobs to the advantage of others in India whose income is mainly wealth dependant does not sit well with me.

^Tata Steel Limited is an Indian multinational steel-making company, based in Jamshedpur, Jharkhand and headquartered in Mumbai, Maharashtra.^

I don’t understand why there isn't a public outcry about what’s happening to our steel industry. Have we learned nothing from being dependent on countries like Russia, China and India (who are still supporting Russia) for things that we rely on. The very people that wax lyrical about being so patriotic and wanting the UK to be great again seem to happily watch our great industries, ship building, steel making, train manufacturing, die before our eyes and all they seem focussed on are people trying to get to this country on boats
sad. And I am suspicious of the Brexit supporting Sunaks connections with India.

Oreo Sun 21-Jan-24 17:12:17

Louella12

I don't like Rishi. I think he'll go down as one of the worst PM's ever.

However there was never a chance he would leave. Just MSM babbling away.

The worst!?

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 21-Jan-24 20:28:41

Worst PM in the last fourteen years? Plenty of choice....

WonderfulLife Sun 21-Jan-24 20:35:51

I am disgusted that unelected Prime Ministers are bringing this country to it's knees and unelected House of Lords are having so much input into the running of the country.

If we had voted for May and Sunak then what has happened to this country would have been the fault of the voters but when Boris Johnson was ousted there should have been a general election there and then.

I have no idea who I will vote for in the next General election as I trust none of these toffs to help the people of this country. They have turned a once Great Brtitain into a country of murderers, rapists, muggers, child abusers because the legal system is not fit for purpose.

M0nica Sun 21-Jan-24 23:38:56

This country has NEVER ever had elected Prime Ministers and it is not them bringing the country to its knees, it is the political party as a whole that they represent, as he can only put forward policies that they support, as we have seen so clearly recently.

ronib Mon 22-Jan-24 07:37:02

Good point M0nica but how did the government manage to alienate its own MPs? Or is this the usual way of conducting business? The government will rely on the fact that Conservative MPs will eventually pass legislation despite the hype. Back to turkeys and Christmas argument?

M0nica Tue 23-Jan-24 08:43:34

It comes back to us, the electorate. The Conservative constituencies, that have in recent years chosen candidates that are more and more right wing and the electorate who have voted for these MPs, thus convincing the Conservatve constintuency associations that extreme right wing candidates are the way to go. But, as they say, you can have too much of a good thing and the extreme right wing policies of this government are turning people away from them, big time.

Now, with, not just electoral defeat but electoral wipe out facing them, they are all fighting like rats that are unable to desert a sinking ship

Pammie1 Tue 23-Jan-24 08:49:40

It’s unthinkable after the events of the last year. If they sack Sunak I think there would have to be a general election. Or at least I would hope so. Hopefully there will then be a change of government and Starmer will have his chance to prove himself.

nanna8 Tue 23-Jan-24 09:41:01

I now think anyone would be better than Sunak. I used to like him but this business with the steel industry just about does it for me. He needs to go. What is the UK now, Little India ?