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Brexit Fallout

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jan-24 07:29:31

The U.K. has been experiencing a severe shortage of drugs recently and medicine for such conditions as type 2 diabetes, cancer, motor neurone disease and such forth are either extremely difficult if not impossible to obtain. The reason being that we have a close neighbour whose buying power is so much greater than ours.

This morning we have news that the EU has decided to “future-proof” by stockpiling drugs as far as it possibly can, which will further snd severely exacerbate the U.K. s position.

In other Brexit news -trade talks with Canada have completely broken down. The U.K. inherited the trade deal when it left the EU, and has since been in talks to try to maintain that deal as is, but given the UKs much lesser economic clout, Canada has refused to play ball and have walked away from the talks. The fallout will mean that cars manufacturers, cheese manufacturers and beef manufacturers amongst other stuff. now face high tariffs if they wish to export to Canada.

Of course we have already noted that extra bureaucracy due to hit our businesses trading with the EU at the end of January will force prices up.

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 18:20:10

The Italian prime minister is one to watch with potential deals with Africa.

Dinahmo Mon 29-Jan-24 18:46:34

Oreo

MaizieD
Well duh! Ooh I never knew that, amazing what people will do in an effort to patronise on forums.😂

I buy as much from British producers as I can afford to do, and as local as possible too.Farmers markets are another good source of local foods.

This fact has been mentioned for some years. I remember a man who was involved in importing food for one of the large supermarkets. He pointed out that we were leaving on 1st January. Too cold to plant seeds and no much too harvest. Just root crops.

My thought at the time was why people realise?

Dinahmo Mon 29-Jan-24 18:51:00

ronib

Recovering from cataract surgery and using a magnifying glass to see and type!

How was it? I've just been to see the anesthetist today before my first next week.

Dinahmo Mon 29-Jan-24 18:53:54

ronib

The general thrust of a sustainable life style should include grow your own and remove long haul transportation as part of net zero targets. Also buy less too.

What are all those thousands/millions living in flats supposed to ? Window boxes I suppose.

maddyone Mon 29-Jan-24 18:57:37

The US…………..made it clear that one of the terms of a potential deal was that foodstuffs wouldn’t be labelled as from the USA

That would of course make it very difficult to reject American foods. No wonder we failed to get a trade deal, and I say thank goodness for that. I guess that I, along with others who have travelled, have probably eaten meat produced in this inferior way at some point in our lives, but we can normally avoid it by buying British or European goods when at home, which is most of the time.

Lovetopaint037 Mon 29-Jan-24 19:07:06

It’s sickening. So much trouble caused by lies, the Daily Mail, Johnson and people who voted for Brexit in the belief that immigration figures would go down and we would have straight bananas.

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 19:14:09

Dinahmo it was fine. Having a tooth filled is much worse. Four weeks of eye drops, no bending , no heavy lifting no housework for a week…… such hardship.

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 19:20:01

Dinahmo. Allotments, community allotments, grow bags re flat dwellers wanting to grow produce.

Dinahmo Mon 29-Jan-24 21:32:25

ronib

Dinahmo it was fine. Having a tooth filled is much worse. Four weeks of eye drops, no bending , no heavy lifting no housework for a week…… such hardship.

Thank you.

MayBee70 Tue 30-Jan-24 17:21:01

On University Challenge last night both teams seem to have forgotten that we were no longer in the EU. And one team was the Open University one! I couldn’t believe it.

varian Tue 30-Jan-24 18:10:37

I suppose some students are only eighteen or so and therefore hardly remember the fraudulent referendum of 2016 when they were only about ten.

Many young people seem to take no interest in current affairs, even quite clever young people.

But it still shocks me.

Galaxy Tue 30-Jan-24 18:14:32

Actually I am not sure that's true, they consume news in a different way, I think the popularity of the long form podcasts shows that. They just consume current affairs in a different way.

MayBee70 Tue 30-Jan-24 18:15:56

varian

I suppose some students are only eighteen or so and therefore hardly remember the fraudulent referendum of 2016 when they were only about ten.

Many young people seem to take no interest in current affairs, even quite clever young people.

But it still shocks me.

But the Open University team were much older!

varian Tue 30-Jan-24 18:16:51

True. So were they all asleep in 2016?

MayBee70 Tue 30-Jan-24 18:19:31

Maybe they all misunderstood the question.

Galaxy Tue 30-Jan-24 18:20:17

I am not sure that people on University Challenge are representative of anything really, even university students grin

Whitewavemark2 Wed 31-Jan-24 08:27:15

Love this twitter feed by Brian Cox - the physicist

So JRM on GBNews

Jacob Ree-Mogg says we don't need to apply the terms of Boris Johnson's Brexit deal, because food standards in the EU are much higher than they are in the UK.

And by applying them, we turn the UK into a miniature EU.

Brian Cox

This is worth watching for the cognitive dissonance on display. As far as I can tell, the argument is that implementing Brexit in the form of a customs and regulatory border between the U.K. and EU damages Brexit.
Furthermore, the argument continues, we don’t need to implement border controls on food because the EU has higher standards than we do. Therefore, it follows, as long as we maintain lower standards than the EU, we don’t need to implement Brexit.
And furthermore (II) the EU are criticised for having higher standards, which presumably means that they should lower their standards, which would then necessitate the introduction of border checks, which would damage Brexit.

Oh dear😀😀

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 31-Jan-24 08:47:55

Or it could mean that if they lower their standards we could lower ours even further. It a little world of wonder people like JRM live in Whitewave hmm

Oreo Wed 31-Jan-24 10:36:48

Galaxy

I am not sure that people on University Challenge are representative of anything really, even university students grin

😂

Grantanow Wed 31-Jan-24 10:56:52

Andrea ('I'm a mum') Leadsom told Kate Burley that businesses simply needed to adapt when Kate skewered her about the £330 million of extra costs they will incur as a result of border checks with the EU. Translation: the Tories don't care about small businesses going to the wall.

Jess20 Wed 31-Jan-24 11:14:51

Not just medications, can't get anyone in Europe to ship us a new exhaust for our old LHD van!

Plunger Wed 31-Jan-24 11:28:00

Maremia

Democracy means you may vote again. Let's put this whole issue to bed, and see how many folk still agree with Brexit. Simples.

So we simply keep on voting till we the anti Brexiteers get the result they want. Shall we do that at every general election when the minority dislike the result ?

Milest0ne Wed 31-Jan-24 11:31:23

glammagran

Hormone fed beef cattle imported from Canada? No thanks! Apart JRM who I’m sure thinks it’s fine.

Plus Chlorine washed chickens which are not allowed in UK

She777 Wed 31-Jan-24 11:37:17

The Canada deal has not been abandoned. We failed to agree on chlorinated chicken and beef imports. The deal can still be brokered but I hope without the chicken.

suelld Wed 31-Jan-24 11:37:17

Oreo

Groan, this old record being played again?
My Mum has no probs getting her diabetic type2 meds, I know cos I pick them up for her.
All this years down the line bellyaching has to stop at some point, it’s like some just enjoy being prophets of doom.
I didn’t vote for it but more people did and I accept that.Have to say I haven’t noticed anything changing since then.The pandemic was the worst thing and thank God that’s over.

Bit selfish that…I haven’t noticed a problem…but many of us have …I’m a small specialist self-employed trader and cannot sent to France, Germany or Spain any longer due to ‘packaging restrictions’ , customs taxes, etc, and general red tape to other countries. The stockpiling referred to May have an effect on medications on the near future and trade agreements are almost impossible to get since Brexit.
YOU might not have noticed a difference in your world, I and others certainly have!