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King Charles

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BlueBelle Mon 05-Feb-24 18:01:42

It’s just been on the news that Charles has cancer and is not taking any duties for now

GrannyGravy13 Wed 07-Feb-24 12:52:47

Twig14 I will be thinking of your DH tomorrow 🤞🏻

OldFrill Wed 07-Feb-24 13:04:57

Eloethan

I haven't read all the thread but noticed that Helen says she is leaving Gransnet because she doesn't agree with some of the posts she has read on this and other topics. She, in particular, took offence at coolcoco's comments.

The vast majority of posters on this thread have made very mild comments re this topic but obviously some people have different views. I am always sad to hear about anyone's diagnosis of a horrible illness but I tend to agree that there is already too much coverage on this issue.

If you find a site that absolutely mirrors all of your views and values, I should think it would be very dull - and actually I think it would be rather sinister. Sometimes I believe we need to listen to views that are not in line with our own, however annoying or distasteful they may feel to us.
Also, self-censorship often occurs when people are afraid to voice their honest opinions because they may be criticised, ridiculed or ganged up on. This is how authoritarian leaders seize more and more power until almost everyone remains silent.

You couldn't have got it more wrong. Rightly or wrongly Helen was supporting coolcoco, in favour of diversity of opinion but averse to the criticism, ridicule and ganging up on by other commenters that she said she had read on this and other threads.
I don't have an opinion on it but l dislike misrepresentation.

knspol Wed 07-Feb-24 13:31:53

Not a royalist by any means but very sad news for anybody. At least he'll get the very best traetment available unlike some people on the NHS waiting lists.
Of course it would be headline news, he's our King!

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 07-Feb-24 13:35:05

He will get the same treatment as those using the NHS. And people don’t sit on waiting lists with suspected or diagnosed cancer.

merlotgran Wed 07-Feb-24 13:42:24

Best wishes to your DH, Twig14. My brother will be having his third cancer op tomorrow.

We also serve who only stand and wait.

Paperbackwriter Wed 07-Feb-24 13:51:13

As a person recently diagnosed with breast cancer, I am all for openness about cancer, whichever sort it is. For one thing, the sort I've got (invasive lobular) doesn't present - at first - with lumps and I didn't know this. So everybody, watch out for any changes in shape or size and don't do what I did, think it's all OK because you feel no lump!

I hope whatever the king has, that it's treatable and that he'll be OK.

Callistemon21 Wed 07-Feb-24 13:52:49

travelsafar

Nostradamus died in 1566.

Paperbackwriter Wed 07-Feb-24 13:53:00

Germanshepherdsmum

He will get the same treatment as those using the NHS. And people don’t sit on waiting lists with suspected or diagnosed cancer.

You are absolutely right here, to the extent that I'm not even using my private insurance as there's nothing at all to be gained in terms of timing or treatment - Kingston hospital's breast cancer team are brilliant (plus the place is linked to the Royal Marsden).

Callistemon21 Wed 07-Feb-24 13:57:04

OldFrill

Eloethan

I haven't read all the thread but noticed that Helen says she is leaving Gransnet because she doesn't agree with some of the posts she has read on this and other topics. She, in particular, took offence at coolcoco's comments.

The vast majority of posters on this thread have made very mild comments re this topic but obviously some people have different views. I am always sad to hear about anyone's diagnosis of a horrible illness but I tend to agree that there is already too much coverage on this issue.

If you find a site that absolutely mirrors all of your views and values, I should think it would be very dull - and actually I think it would be rather sinister. Sometimes I believe we need to listen to views that are not in line with our own, however annoying or distasteful they may feel to us.
Also, self-censorship often occurs when people are afraid to voice their honest opinions because they may be criticised, ridiculed or ganged up on. This is how authoritarian leaders seize more and more power until almost everyone remains silent.

You couldn't have got it more wrong. Rightly or wrongly Helen was supporting coolcoco, in favour of diversity of opinion but averse to the criticism, ridicule and ganging up on by other commenters that she said she had read on this and other threads.
I don't have an opinion on it but l dislike misrepresentation.

Yes, you're correct, OldFrill

Also, it's not unknown for some new (and controversial) posters to use two usernames and write in support of themselves on threads.
How they do it without getting confused, I don't know, but it happens!

Lizhol77 Wed 07-Feb-24 14:12:39

I don't think he will have to go on a waiting list for treatment like two of my friends and a family member .

Jaberwok Wed 07-Feb-24 14:30:37

The King is not the only person to have private medical treatment. Most wealthy people/celebrities do just that and people don't criticise them. How would it help reduce waiting times if all these people including the King were to join the queue? My experience of the NHS and cancer/serious illness treatment is excellent, others areas? Not too bad but could do better.

nadateturbe Wed 07-Feb-24 14:39:02

Perhaps it's worse in NI. We also have to ring A&E. We can't just turn up.

Casdon Wed 07-Feb-24 14:42:53

semperfidelis

I do feel concerned for King Charles, as for anyone else with cancer. But Charles is receiving his treatment about three days after diagnosis. How many more have been on waiting lists for months/years waiting for cancer treatment?

Nobody whose cancer was found whilst undergoing an operation for something else will be waiting.

Elegran Wed 07-Feb-24 14:47:10

travelsafar

Just read something about a prediction from Nostradarmus ... excuse spelling if wrong. It's saying Harry will be king not William if anything happens to King Charles!!!! Anyone else read this??? Media gone mad surely!!!!

Nostradamus's many predictions were all so vague that any of them could be interpreted to have foreseen absolutely anything - and have been at various times in history, some several times over and each time predicting something different.

Yes, media gone mad. If they are reduced to quoting someone who has been dead nearly 500 years they are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Next week it'll be a Roman haruspex inspecting the entrails of a sacrifice and telling us the winner of the lottery will be from Little Puddleton in the Marsh - if the inhabitants of L P i t M rush to buy lottery tickets they are all in for a disappointment.

Anniebach Wed 07-Feb-24 14:49:05

Was mention of Nostradamus used seriously?

Elegran Wed 07-Feb-24 14:49:47

Casdon

semperfidelis

I do feel concerned for King Charles, as for anyone else with cancer. But Charles is receiving his treatment about three days after diagnosis. How many more have been on waiting lists for months/years waiting for cancer treatment?

Nobody whose cancer was found whilst undergoing an operation for something else will be waiting.

You do NOT wait for years for cancer treatments. Cancer is so prioritised that people with other ailments sometimes get a bit envious.

Luckygirl3 Wed 07-Feb-24 14:50:54

Hope the op goes well Twig.

grannybuy Wed 07-Feb-24 15:01:01

I was sad to hear of the King’s diagnosis, and sincerely hope that treatment will be effective. I’m also pleased that he has allowed it to be public knowledge. Of course it has made news headlines, quite rightly so, but I do agree with some other posters that the media are repeating it over and over to no further avail. The King’s family will be trying to cope with the news, and all that it entails, while, at the same time, trying to remain positive. I feel that the constant repetition, and some conjecture, does not have a calming influence. I think they should leave it now, until there is further news.

Iam64 Wed 07-Feb-24 15:21:25

I agree it would be good if the press. /media agreed to wait until there’s news on treatment and back off but - they’re all in competition with each other so it won’t hapoen

Anniebach Wed 07-Feb-24 15:26:45

Surely the royal family know only too well not to keep rolling
news on

sodapop Wed 07-Feb-24 15:27:29

Heavens above Callistemon21 its hard to believe people would go to such lengths on a site such as this. I learn something every day.

Elegran Wed 07-Feb-24 15:54:46

Somene got the boot for it only a day or two ago. She had gone on at length about how traumatic her (divorced) MiL's treatment of her had been, and when some of the replies thought her post was very like several similar ones that had appeared lately, she backed herself up with a supportive post under a different username. GNHW investigated, discovered the two usernames, banned her, and deleted the whole thread.

Elegran Wed 07-Feb-24 15:55:44

GNHQ not GNHW

fancythat Wed 07-Feb-24 16:05:02

GNHW investigated, discovered the two usernames, banned her, and deleted the whole thread.

How do you know all that? It was written on some thread or other I suppose?

JenniferEccles Wed 07-Feb-24 16:11:19

Harry has been seen at Heathrow airport according to the BBC.