The PM continues to demonstrate amazingly poor taste!

Sorry CvD66, I hadn't notice this when I put my thread up. Mine includes another bit so I'll leave it if you don't mind.

Rishi Sunak makes trans jibe in front of Brianna Ghey’s mother
The prime minister made the tone deaf remarks while the mother of a murdered trans schoolgirl sat in the public gallery

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rishi-sunak-trans-joke-brianna-ghey-mum-b2492095.html

I hope he continues in the same way - more opprobrium heaped upon him and by implication the rest of the Tories.

According to one of our tory supporters Mrs Ghey wasn't in the gallery at the time. So that seems to make it OK. It's not as though she's likely to read/hear about it in the media

She was not in the gallery at the time.

The leader of the opposition has got form when answering the question what is a woman

MaizieD

According to one of our tory supporters Mrs Ghey wasn't in the gallery at the time. So that seems to make it OK. It's not as though she's likely to read/hear about it in the media

Brianna Ghey’s murder was appalling, but it doesn’t mean that the nation can no longer discuss the trans issue.

GrannyGravy13

The leader of the opposition has got form when answering the question ^what is a woman^

So it's fine to joke about it at PMQs when the mother of a trans girl, who was murdered because she was trans, is in the Houses of Parliament? Because she wasn't in the public gallery at the time?

Oh dear....

I agree GrannyGravy and think I'm right that the fact she was trans did not motivate this appalling act.

He put his foot in it yesterday when he announced, without any clarification, that King Charles's cancer 'had been caught early on'.

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD

According to one of our tory supporters Mrs Ghey wasn't in the gallery at the time. So that seems to make it OK. It's not as though she's likely to read/hear about it in the media

Brianna Ghey’s murder was appalling, but it doesn’t mean that the nation can no longer discuss the trans issue.

Good heavens. You're making it worse, GG13. The 'trans issue' was not under discussion at the time.. Sunak makes a completely tasteless and inappropriate jibe but it's OK because we can still discuss the trans issue?

Smileless2012

I agree GrannyGravy and think I'm right that the fact she was trans did not motivate this appalling act.

Not according to the account I read. Trans was a contributory issue.

Keir Starmer has made some remarkable statements - not least telling Rosie Duffield she couldn't say that only women have a cervix. I was tempted to ask where he keeps his. Mrs. Ghey was not in the gallery. Her daughter was not murdered because she was trans.

MaizieD

Smileless2012

I agree GrannyGravy and think I'm right that the fact she was trans did not motivate this appalling act.

Not according to the account I read. Trans was a contributory issue.

The girl who was convicted for the murder had a list of various other teenagers on a kill list, non were transgender.

LovesBach

Keir Starmer has made some remarkable statements - not least telling Rosie Duffield she couldn't say that only women have a cervix. I was tempted to ask where he keeps his. Mrs. Ghey was not in the gallery. Her daughter was not murdered because she was trans.

This is what I understand too from the reports.
I’m a Labour supporter, lifelong in fact, but wish Starmer hadn’t chosen to make a minor political spat at PMQ’s into a big thing by naming Mrs Ghey who was in the building that day.It’s just not on.
Starmer shillyshallying the other year on what a woman was didn’t give me any confidence in him as a Leader either sadly.

I am a Labour supporter , Starmer was so wrong

I wonder what his wife thinks

Germanshepherdsmum

She was not in the gallery at the time.

Just because you say so Germanshepherdsmum? Or are you going to tell us where you got that little gem that makes it all alright then?

Oreo

MaizieD

Smileless2012

I agree GrannyGravy and think I'm right that the fact she was trans did not motivate this appalling act.

Not according to the account I read. Trans was a contributory issue.

The girl who was convicted for the murder had a list of various other teenagers on a kill list, non were transgender.

The girl wasn't the only one convicted of the murder, Oreo

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD

According to one of our tory supporters Mrs Ghey wasn't in the gallery at the time. So that seems to make it OK. It's not as though she's likely to read/hear about it in the media

Brianna Ghey’s murder was appalling, but it doesn’t mean that the nation can no longer discuss the trans issue.

It surely means they consider the presence of a mother, grieving for her murdered daughter, who was killed at least partly because she was trans - or do you really not care?

Sarnia

He put his foot in it yesterday when he announced, without any clarification, that King Charles's cancer 'had been caught early on'.

This has been 'bugging' me too - does he know that?

Brianna Ghey was killed because she was trans, a judge ruled today, as she sentenced the two 16-year-old serial killer obsessives who murdered her to life in prison.

From the Daily Mail

It seems some still want to stir the hatred that led to this - including Rishi Sunak.

DaisyAnneReturns

Germanshepherdsmum

She was not in the gallery at the time.

Just because you say so Germanshepherdsmum? Or are you going to tell us where you got that little gem that makes it all alright then?

It was reported that Mrs Ghey was not in the public gallery by the BBC in its 4pm news broadcast on Radio 2.

Discussing issues is not stirring hatred. It is a complex issue. Sunaks contribution is not helpful but the issues continue to need to be discussed.