Leave paddyanne alone. She will post. Or not. Itâs up to her.
All this mentioning of her is goady in my opinion.
Farage fails to report 5 million gift!
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Leave paddyanne alone. She will post. Or not. Itâs up to her.
All this mentioning of her is goady in my opinion.
Scotlandâs prosecutors could detonate a âpolitical grenadeâ that derails the SNPâs general election campaign, a nationalist MP has warned them after they confirmed Nicola Sturgeon remains under investigation.
Angus MacNeil urged the Crown Office to provide âclarityâ on whether they will âhold offâ until after the election on bringing any further charges over the investigation into the SNPâs finances.
The Western Isles MP said any action over Operation Branchform before July 4 had âhuge potential to change the narrative of this campaignâ.
Angus Mac Neil is standing as an independent.
Oreo Elegran is most definitely well informed on Scottish politics living as she does in Scotland!
Her defence of Bonnybanko, a more vulnerable person, is typical of her fair and just attitude to life.
Aveline
Oreo Elegran is most definitely well informed on Scottish politics living as she does in Scotland!
Her defence of Bonnybanko, a more vulnerable person, is typical of her fair and just attitude to life.
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I was defending her as thought she knew nothing about Scotland as she said that Peter Murrell was the leader of the SNP.Now you say she lives in Scotland and is well informed on Scottish politics.
Well, it sure didnât sound like it.
Elegran
Peter Murrell is/was in a very prominent position in public political circles, presumably chosen as their leader by the SNP party.
Splittng hairs over whether he gained that position in a general or local election or by the choice of party members is almost as petty as GSM up on her cuddy and patronisingly claiming that a poster's simple statement about the current veniality of politicians is incomprehensible.
Here it is in black and white.
Time to get back to the meat of the thread? The SNP is in disarray and Humza is looking beleaguered.Thatâs if heâs still the leader today.
Sturgeon and her hubby have really dropped their Party in it.
Murrell was chief exec and very prominent and extremely influential in the awful SNP.
Not sure why you're being so unpleasant to Elegran. If you could only meet her! I suppose nuance is lost on posting forums.
Meanwhile Swinney has really messed up in his support for Mathieson. He just doesn't read the room.
Oh. In case you didn't know Humza resigned weeks ago. John Swinney is now first minister. Yawn.
I am not a member of said party, so I don't really care exactly what their hierarchy is. The Chief Executive leads the party, just as much as their nominal leader does, but from the perspective of an executive.
This argument, however, began with my reaction to the bullying - yes, bullying - of Bonnybanko for posting what every reasonable person believes, that the current standard of integrity and morality among politicians in general seems to have reached an all-time low.
I understood the post at once, yet GSM greeted it with a peevish "What is that supposed to mean?" Why have I seen more people leaping to attack my posts, than there are posts condemning that one? Could it be that the attackers find it more fun to attack than to defend?
Haha, so thatâs why he looked beleaguered when I last saw himđ€Ł
I donât have much time to keep up with SNP leaders Aveline but I did know that it was Nicola Sturgeon who was leader and not the husband.
Incidentally I wasnât being the least unpleasant to Elegran and was initially defending her, shouldnât have bothered it seems.
Bonnybanko
Politics are going daft, for goodness sake whatâs the world coming to not only the uk but the world at large
Have gone back to find the post which is claimed to have resulted in bullying.
Nothing wrong with Bonnybankoâs comment, in fact I agree with it, but have found no bullying comments about it at all!
Not sure whatâs going on here other than maybe a feud between posters.
Why is the arrest of the former SNP chief executive on suspicion of embezzlement âpolitics going daftâ?
Aveline
I suspect that she's busy out trying to fundraise for the SNPs election campaign.
Well, they are a bit short of cash.
Germanshepherdsmum
Why is the arrest of the former SNP chief executive on suspicion of embezzlement âpolitics going daftâ?
I think itâs more about the fact that they were arrested for alleged wrongdoing and that thereâs so many changes of leaders and crazy stuff going on with politics all over, including the Trump trial.You could say with some conviction that politics are going daft.đ
Elegran
I am not a member of said party, so I don't really care exactly what their hierarchy is. The Chief Executive leads the party, just as much as their nominal leader does, but from the perspective of an executive.
This argument, however, began with my reaction to the bullying - yes, bullying - of Bonnybanko for posting what every reasonable person believes, that the current standard of integrity and morality among politicians in general seems to have reached an all-time low.
I understood the post at once, yet GSM greeted it with a peevish "What is that supposed to mean?" Why have I seen more people leaping to attack my posts, than there are posts condemning that one? Could it be that the attackers find it more fun to attack than to defend?
Your first paragraph is entirely false. The appointed CEO carries far less influence than the elected leader, who for the current and past two leaders at least has also been the First Minister of Scotland, which is why their influence is hugely more significant than the CEO.
You seem to interpret my corrections as bullying yet you persist in disseminating false information.
l think it's important for people who want to contribute to a conversation about Scottish politics to know the facts and not confuse other contributors with misinformation.
Feeling rather bullied myself here, every time l correct misinformation I'm told I'm bullying!
Murrell was a hugely influential member of the SNP. He was not just some trivial appointee by a board. Their financial situation stinks. The finance committee resigned two years ago as not allowed to see the books. Then there was trouble trying to find an accountancy firm willing to sign off the books. I don't understand why it's taken so long to get to the bottom of it all.
Meanwhile, paddyann may have joined Salmond's Alba party as many ex SNP fans have done.
Donât you think it was a big mistake to have appointed NS husband to that important post?Making a power couple out of it.I should imagine nobody dared question them so they were free to rule the roost in every way, party funds and all.
Whatever comes from the police investigation it will be a lesson learnt not to bring in the husband or wife of future first ministers there.
He was there first
In that case the SNP shouldnât have voted in NS, wonder what pressure was put on them to choose her?
Just the usually kind of pressure applied here in Scotland to all political party members choosing a new leader.
But the one thatâs works here in Glasgow is the threat of getting your name in âthe windaeâ.
That usually works.
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I once read that NS not only had her face in the windae but also on the side of a helicopter, tho that was once she was âcrownedâ Queen Nicola of course.
I think it says something about the SNP that they could not see the dangers of having aa husband and wife in the two most powerful jobs in the party.
I cannot envisage a situation in the national government where it would be acceptable for whoever was Prime Minister, whether Conservative, Labour or Monster Raving Loony party, to have their spouse in a senior position in the party - chairman or Treasurer. There have been occasions when a husband and wife have been MPs, but that is very different.
Boris certainly got criticised if Carrie was thought to interfere in politics.
Yes, it is something I hadn't realised before this debacle, that Ms Sturgeon's husband was the Chief Executive of the party and they therefore wielded a lot of power between them.
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