The Republic of Ireland and their tensions with migrants.

Why have Ireland got a problem taking some migrants? Everywhere else does.

They’re not used to it.😄

growstuff
The Vietnamese are trafficked by the Albanians. The Vietnamese have been working in grow houses for some time now.
As business is booming more farmers are needed.

petra

growstuff
The Vietnamese are trafficked by the Albanians. The Vietnamese have been working in grow houses for some time now.
As business is booming more farmers are needed.

The Vietnamese who died in the back of the lorry hadn't been trafficked by Albanians.

In any case, they are different from Afghans and Iranians or Syrians, who really are fleeing persecution. I know there are international efforts to try and catch some of these networks.

Wyllow3

67% of asylum claims are accepted on initial application.

I'm sorry you se it as high horse. I was genuinely shocked by the term "illegals" for human beings.

There are lots of issues around this - countries all over Europe face them - clearly matters need addressing -

but hate words aren't necessary.

This. And Wyllow3's, Cossy's, LizzieDrip's and Growstuff's comments. I agree with every one.

And I don’t.

Dublin is being termed ‘Tent City’ now by some Irish newspapers.

“ The string of makeshift accommodation, seen this morning stretching around the International Protection Office and continuing along the road, has been dubbed a 'tent city' by the Irish Examiner, which reported there are roughly 1,700 homeless asylum seekers currently in Ireland. The tents, packed tightly together with minimal personal space, have no access to sanitary facilities with migrants telling reporters earlier this month they were forced to use an open toilet in the corner of the camp. A large group of the migrants were moved to another location in south Dublin earlier this month but later returned because the conditions there were reportedly even worse. Several of their tents sported scrawled messages that read 'we are not subhuman' and 'homes for all'.

It comes as UK Government ministers today flatly rejected Dublin's demands to take back asylum seekers crossing from Northern Ireland”

It has been reported that the majority of migrants are coming from Sub Saharan Africa. That would be bourne out by the images we see on our screens when Border Force bring the boats in. There has been an increase in people coming from Vietnam too. Sub Saharan Africa is very poor, therefore it seems likely that most are economic migrants. Many, when asked, say they are seeking a better life.

Wherever they’re coming from, it’s crystal clear that Ireland don’t want them.

And who can blame them? Access to social media has opened their eyes to possibilities.

But this isn’t how it should be done.

The world (especially Europe) needs to wake up.

* I didn’t mean the ROI 😮

Welcome to Paris Tent City no wonder they want to come to UK a hotel room and all meals waiting for
them here and their personal human rights lawyer and some had to cheek to moan about the Bibby Stockholm.

Dear EU,

We are very happy with Brexit - please tell your Irish colony to wind its neck in, Varadkar caused the friction and now it is paying the price.

The UK

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An unnecessary and inflammatory remark zakouma66.

Moving on …

Ireland has only 5 million people, and the percentage of people foreign-born is approaching 25%. Ireland's government thinks that's just fine, and want to continue by joining the EU migration pact, even though they cold opt out. The Irish people have become aware of the kind of people they have put in power, and there is now a rebellion.

The Irish government thinks they can mollify the public by sending some migrants back to the UK. It's not that they don't want anymore migrants; they do. But the current situation can give them some political cover, by stirring up UK/Ireland antagonisms, and they're grabbing at it.

Greta

MayBee70, I believe you are right but for some reason we don't want to remind people about that...

And yet those who voted for Brexit will now vote for Reform. An example of the triumph of hope over experience perhaps

Urmstongran

Dear EU,

We are very happy with Brexit - please tell your Irish colony to wind its neck in, Varadkar caused the friction and now it is paying the price.

The UK

Dear Urmstongran

Many of us are not very happy with Brexit, nor people like you who speak for us. Kindly sign your “letter” from you!

Kindest regards
Cossy

An unnecessary and inflammatory remark zakouma66.

Are you running the show then?

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Zakouma66 your yellow star remark is in extremely poor taste, even more so with the war in the Middle East.

I wonder what the people complaining about "illegals" would have thought of DH's grandfather, who walked from Italy to Wales along with many others at the end of the 19th century. All single young men looking for work. He then walked back to London and disappeared into Little Italy. Would the fact that he looked like us have outweighed the fact that he couldn't speak English?

Good post Deedaa. Your last sentence is particularly pertinent. I don’t remember lots of threads on GN criticising Ukrainians fleeing the war when they were (quite rightly) given refuge in the UK. But then they look like ‘us’ don’t they.

GrannyGravy13

Zakouma66 your yellow star remark is in extremely poor taste, even more so with the war in the Middle East.

I don't see any distinction between that and " illegals"

Then you need to go boil your head zakouma6.

Now just stop this - whipping up a storm by bringing in persons of colour as though that what some of us are against when we talk about migrants. Note: migrants.
I don’t use the term illegal.
Migration figures are too high. That’s the issue at stake. Not their colour. Although fanatical Islamists are a real concern. Look at Germany! Fanatics calling for a ‘caliphate’ there.
Yikes.
Ungrateful lot.

HousePlantQueen

Greta

MayBee70, I believe you are right but for some reason we don't want to remind people about that...

And yet those who voted for Brexit will now vote for Reform. An example of the triumph of hope over experience perhaps

Brexit was never done properly by the Conservatives. I was so disappointed in Boris.

Reform has the UK’s interests at heart. That’s why I shall vote for them.