The Republic of Ireland and their tensions with migrants.

zakouma66

*An unnecessary and inflammatory remark zakouma66*.

Are you running the show then?

No. The moderators do.

Back to Ireland. Have you read about Roscrae??
Blimey O’Reilly.

zakouma66

*An unnecessary and inflammatory remark zakouma66*.

Are you running the show then?

I thought you were, judging by the amount of comments by you saying other posts were vile and threatening to report as ‘hate crimes’.

Ireland maybe realises now how bad things have been here, mainly in England.They wanted to be in the EU and free movement of people after all.A bit more free movement than they expected now.
At least we don’t treat illegal immigrants like they, and some other countries do, tents and no facilities, disgusting.

We have people seeking asylum and refugees living in tents in England?

zakouma66

We have people seeking asylum and refugees living in tents in England?

No we put them up in hotels with all found, far better conditions than they have left in the countries they travel from or the conditions they have had travelling we are far too soft, and seen as a soft touch.

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Well said tickingbird.
The comment was offensive, antisemitic actually.

Katie59

zakouma66

We have people seeking asylum and refugees living in tents in England?

No we put them up in hotels with all found, far better conditions than they have left in the countries they travel from or the conditions they have had travelling we are far too soft, and seen as a soft touch.

No, many are in tents.
news.sky.com/story/huge-rise-in-refugees-sleeping-rough-after-home-office-cuts-notice-period-to-leave-accommodation-13013780

Maybe some of this international tension is a storm in a teacup. Or a glass of Guinness.

Simon Harris, the new Taoiseach, goaded by Sinn Fein, clearly feels bound to square up to the Brits. As the Irish commentator John McGuirk put it, “the auld enemy has once again been rustled out from the back of the political cupboard, donned in the butcher’s apron [a rude description of the UK flag], and cast as the oppressor of all things good and decent and celtic.”

As McGuirk points out, immigrants are far more likely to be coming to Ireland because of Irish immigration policy, not the UK’s. The Irish could emulate the British and make a deal with Rwanda, as Denmark, an EU country has contemplated. In fact, in its desire to be popular, Ireland has become a softer touch even than the UK.

zakouma66

Katie59

zakouma66

We have people seeking asylum and refugees living in tents in England?

No we put them up in hotels with all found, far better conditions than they have left in the countries they travel from or the conditions they have had travelling we are far too soft, and seen as a soft touch.

No, many are in tents.
news.sky.com/story/huge-rise-in-refugees-sleeping-rough-after-home-office-cuts-notice-period-to-leave-accommodation-13013780

Maybe life is not as easy as they expected a barge in port or a barrack block sounds nicer.

The only ones in tents are the asylum seekers that have been given refugee status so must then leave their free accommodation but they can work and have access to universal credit.So they’re the lucky ones who have been accepted here.
Their tents will only be temporary if they’re willing to work.

There are many of our own homeless citizens living in tents and I would put their needs first.

Oreo

There are many of our own homeless citizens living in tents and I would put their needs first.

" our own" Nice.

What’s wrong with ‘our own’ zakouma66? Veterans who fought are sometimes on our streets.

Yes zakouma66 our own British citizens, many with MH problems or drug addictions or ex soldiers or teenagers and young men and women thrown out by their parents or brought up in care who can easily end up on the streets homeless.

A 56-year-old woman who is due to be evicted on 1 May has been told she should be able to "function reasonably well" if she ends up on the streets.
Thurrock Council wrote to Heidi Dodson rejecting her application for priority housing following a no fault eviction notice from her landlord.
The council acknowledges Ms Dodson is eligible for help but maintained she would be able to cope if she becomes homeless and is not a "priority need".

VS

According to the latest available data, 50,546 asylum seekers were being housed in hotels in the UK at the end of June. This is around 10% more than the 45,775 living in hotels at the end of last year. 25 Oct 2023

I'm trying hard to square this with what is fair and charitable. But I can't.

Urmstongran

What’s wrong with ‘our own’ zakouma66? Veterans who fought are sometimes on our streets.

And Afghan people that helped us were just left for the Taliban to deal with. Don’t we have a responsibility towards them if they manage to find their way here?

Oreo

There are many of our own homeless citizens living in tents and I would put their needs first.

Maybe it suits the governments agenda to have ‘our’ people homeless and living in tents. Because, if our country had enough money put into homes, schools, the NHS etc noone could point a finger at migrants saying ‘ they’re treated better than us’.

I agree MayBee. There is a pervasive narrative on here at times here trying to blame all our ills on "foreigners" "illegals", "them, not "us", and avoiding what you allude to.

This narrative fails to mention what many migrants have contributed to, only alluding to examples of "bad migrants", and that we have run down the processing system to allow a speedier return of purely economic migrants.

Sitting on a makeshift bed and hiding his face behind the flap of his tent, Mr Mhammed tells how he fled from Britain to Ireland to avoid deportation to Rwanda. He was among the first migrants to be notified by letter that he would be sent to the East African country after he arrived in the UK on a small boat in 2022.

Three weeks ago, as Rishi Sunak’s new Safety of Rwanda Act was on course to become law, he took a bus from London to Liverpool, then a ferry to Belfast, before getting a second bus to Dublin. (The Telegraph today)

Karma

I can't begin to imagine what joy you get from this Nicenanny3
What in your psyche or past leads you to this moment where you celebrate this with such obvious delight.

I agree MayBee and Wyllow. There is some serious gaslighting going on in this country. It’s causing division, ‘othering’ and nastiness. It’s sad to hear how some people have fallen for it. I do wonder how this current phase in the UK will be viewed in the history books in 20, 40, 50 years time. Will historians look back and ask how could a government wilfully cause such division, and how could so many people fall for it? Our words and actions today will be judged by our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren in the future.

^I can't begin to imagine what joy you get from this Nicenanny3
What in your psyche or past leads you to this moment where you celebrate this with such obvious delight.^

zakouma66👏👏👏