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Urmstongran Sat 18-May-24 14:24:02

You only had to watch Angela Rayner, Labour’s deputy leader, launching the new six-pledge card thing in Essex on Thursday. She bounced onto the stage with that expression politicians have the morning after a huge victory. Her face was one big soporific smile and she’s clearly been away attending a John Prescott word-mangling masterclass. “We aren’t,” she said, although she actually said “we are”, “promising the world,” which she quickly corrected to “the earth”, before adding: “But we are promising that what we are confident on we can deliver on.” Which I had to listen back to about six times to check I had it word for word.

Rachel Reeves then promised to “never play fast and loose with the public finances”. Let’s see how her VAT on private schools policy works out – indications are that already parents are eyeing up state-school alternatives for this September. Ed Miliband is going to “take back control of our destiny”, Yvette Cooper is “giving young people their future back”, while Sir Keir Starmer walked into that room filled with people in suits, tie-less in white shirt sleeves so you could notice him.

It all seems a bit vague. Maybe that’s deliberate?

Oreo Wed 22-May-24 08:40:01

I don’t blame them for trying mind you, I blame the government for being so pathetic and incompetent in not dealing with them as quickly as France and Germany.
It seems that the threat of Rwanda is having a small effect at last, in that many are departing to Ireland.

Primrose53 Wed 22-May-24 09:31:47

zakouma66

Oreo

MayBee70

We do actually have a responsibility towards many of the people in those boats.

No, we don’t.
All this talk of ‘desperate folk fleeing’ blah blah is sentimental rubbish.There will be hardly any percentage of true asylum seekers coming here in small boats as they are almost all economic migrants.All of them could have applied for asylum in France or previous countries they travelled through.
They come here as we’re known to be a softer touch than the authorities in Germany or France or have already been turned down there. End of.

Can you enlighten us as to how you know who is on the boats please?

How do you know about everybody and their circumstances?

We all have eyes and can see hundreds of fit young men getting off the boats. hardly a woman or child amongst them. We know which countries they come from because the stats are out there (you could try looking yourself) and we know that they have all paid thousands to people smugglers.

MayBee70 Wed 22-May-24 12:10:03

Oreo

MayBee70

We do actually have a responsibility towards many of the people in those boats.

No, we don’t.
All this talk of ‘desperate folk fleeing’ blah blah is sentimental rubbish.There will be hardly any percentage of true asylum seekers coming here in small boats as they are almost all economic migrants.All of them could have applied for asylum in France or previous countries they travelled through.
They come here as we’re known to be a softer touch than the authorities in Germany or France or have already been turned down there. End of.

What about the people from Afghanistan: the ones who helped us but we left the country suddenly and left them to their fate with the Taliban? Do we not have a responsibility towards them. And, if we ignore them will any peoples in any future conflict ever trust us again?

icanhandthemback Wed 22-May-24 18:32:33

Well it looks like we are one step nearer to another government.