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Whitewavemark2 Thu 23-May-24 07:29:20

I am not sure if it will be possible over the next 42 days, but I thought it would be fun to try to see. How the polls perform after the various gaffs that the politicians will inevitably make.

Whilst the gap is huge at the moment, it will almost certainly close as the days go by.

I think I’ll use Politico (poll of polls)

LizzieDrip Sat 15-Jun-24 10:21:04

Agreed WW.

I’m not counting any chickens🤞🤞🤞 but I am confident in KS’s strength of character.

growstuff Sat 15-Jun-24 10:23:47

Casdon

You have to laugh - latest offering from Johnson in the Mail.
Is headed:
‘If Labour wins big, the Commons will be crammed with Palestinian-flag waving Corbynistas - and it won't just be the rich getting soaked, it'll be everyone. Voting Tory is the ONLY way to stop Starmergeddon’

How many more childish and offensive names does he have lined up? Last week it was Keir Schnorrer. Schnorrer is a Yiddish derogatory Yiddish word for "scrounger" or "beggar".

Galaxy Sat 15-Jun-24 10:25:56

To be fair Blair in his own way was booted out from within.
I would like a little more of the Tory ruthlessness in the labour party, a few years ago that would have been very beneficial.
It may be urban myth but wasnt Corbyns nomination as leader done from a position of pity, I vaguely remember Margaret Beckett saying that.

Lovetopaint037 Sat 15-Jun-24 10:27:59

Some years ago the Labour Party led by Neil Kinnok were forecasted to win by a landslide. Well they didn’t which really upset me. The Tories won easily. It seemed that as it was supposed to be a foregone conclusion there was no need to turn up to vote Labour. I only hope this doesn’t happen this time and that all voters are registered or have a passport, driving license , travel pass to ensure they do despite how busy they are.

MayBee70 Sat 15-Jun-24 10:47:16

Galaxy

To be fair Blair in his own way was booted out from within.
I would like a little more of the Tory ruthlessness in the labour party, a few years ago that would have been very beneficial.
It may be urban myth but wasnt Corbyns nomination as leader done from a position of pity, I vaguely remember Margaret Beckett saying that.

I don’t think it was pity but balance? Either way she bitterly regretted it ( nominating him not saying it!).

Galaxy Sat 15-Jun-24 10:50:00

Yes it was something like 'oh he should be allowed a chance'. So yes a bit of ruthlessness there would have been helpful.

LizzieDrip Sat 15-Jun-24 10:55:55

It seemed that as it was supposed to be a foregone conclusion there was no need to turn up to vote Labour. I only hope this doesn’t happen this time and that all voters are registered or have a passport, driving license , travel pass to ensure they do despite how busy they are

Exactly Lovetopaint👏👏👏

I hope people aren’t lulled into a false sense of security (or complacency) by these poll figures. Every Labour supporter absolutely must vote!

We cannot take anything for granted - no matter what the polls say!

Urmstongran Sat 15-Jun-24 10:58:27

Nigel Farage is ‘trying to destroy the Conservative Party’, says Lord Cameron.

No Dave, Sir Nigel Farage is heroically trying to reverse your awful legacy, there’s a difference.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 15-Jun-24 11:27:07

Galaxy

To be fair Blair in his own way was booted out from within.
I would like a little more of the Tory ruthlessness in the labour party, a few years ago that would have been very beneficial.
It may be urban myth but wasnt Corbyns nomination as leader done from a position of pity, I vaguely remember Margaret Beckett saying that.

Yes it was! There were nominations put in but no nomination from the left and it was thought to balance it there should be a nomination from the left.

The rest is history as they say!

Siope Sat 15-Jun-24 11:36:17

I too am concerned that the polls will squash turnout among Labour voters - I think Labour are too, as I noticed both Starmer and Streeting saying the same yesterday.

Freya5 Sat 15-Jun-24 11:46:47

Siope

I too am concerned that the polls will squash turnout among Labour voters - I think Labour are too, as I noticed both Starmer and Streeting saying the same yesterday.

Seeing Wes Streeting on TV the other night, showing g his thuggish side, I don't want him representing me, thank you very much

Whitewavemark2 Sat 15-Jun-24 11:49:59

Urmstongran

Nigel Farage is ‘trying to destroy the Conservative Party’, says Lord Cameron.

No Dave, Sir Nigel Farage is heroically trying to reverse your awful legacy, there’s a difference.

Heroically?? 😀😀

There is nothing heroic about that grifter.

He is sitting as the centre of a company who is running for election to parliament, with no manifesto, but a contract which if you read it is in the realms of fantasy.

A couple of days ago he announced the intention of reducing tax by 40 billion.

Bang goes the NHS and all those suffering from pre-existing conditions (I am a cancer recoverer) will never get insurance. All acute treatment is carried out by the NHS, and is almost always referred to the NHS by the private sector.

LizzieDrip Sat 15-Jun-24 12:06:13

WW👏👏👏

Farage is a disrupter. He enjoys the controversy that he causes. If he ever had to make a serious political decision of any importance, he’d sh** himself!

I also wish he’d stop with all this ‘Labour have already won the election’ which, for anyone taking any notice, could serve to suppress the Labour vote. He’s a mischief maker and a sh** stirrer!

Galaxy Sat 15-Jun-24 12:21:30

Labour will win the next election. I am not keen on people trying to stop others saying things that are true. Farage may have all sorts of reasons for saying that, but I want people to be able to say that.

Siope Sat 15-Jun-24 12:27:52

It isn’t true. It’s likely, but it’s by no means unprecedented for polls to be very inaccurate, or even for parties that look certain to win to lose.

Galaxy Sat 15-Jun-24 12:36:41

Labour will win the next election. There are possibilities that something could go wrong, Starmer could decide to say he hates puppies and would like a mass extermination, but other than that they are going to win.

Wyllow3 Sat 15-Jun-24 12:37:06

Heroic isnt my description of Farage and Tice who both deny there is such as thing as Climate Change and want to drop all Net Zero policies. (or any policies on same)
At least BJ took part in recognising it internationally and attempting to get agreements to save our planet.

growstuff Sat 15-Jun-24 12:48:42

Freya5

Siope

I too am concerned that the polls will squash turnout among Labour voters - I think Labour are too, as I noticed both Starmer and Streeting saying the same yesterday.

Seeing Wes Streeting on TV the other night, showing g his thuggish side, I don't want him representing me, thank you very much

Do you live in Ilford?

It's up to the people who live in Ilford whether he becomes an MP and nothing you can do about it.

Freya5 Sat 15-Jun-24 13:00:00

growstuff

Freya5

Siope

I too am concerned that the polls will squash turnout among Labour voters - I think Labour are too, as I noticed both Starmer and Streeting saying the same yesterday.

Seeing Wes Streeting on TV the other night, showing g his thuggish side, I don't want him representing me, thank you very much

Do you live in Ilford?

It's up to the people who live in Ilford whether he becomes an MP and nothing you can do about it.

Well jolly good for you. Unfortunately if they get in,he will he will be representing the people of this country, and not just you lot in Wigan.

Freya5 Sat 15-Jun-24 13:02:22

Oops talking to someone else, sorry Ilford. Well my words still apply.

LizzieDrip Sat 15-Jun-24 19:11:42

Labour will win the next election. I am not keen on people trying to stop others saying things that are true

Galaxy I really hope you’re right but, at this moment, it isn’t true. Not a vote has been cast yet!

Galaxy Sat 15-Jun-24 19:31:56

I dont think Starmer will say he hates puppies Lizzie so I think we will be fine smile

LizzieDrip Sat 15-Jun-24 20:00:50

Galaxygringringrin

growstuff Sat 15-Jun-24 20:26:59

Freya5

growstuff

Freya5

Siope

I too am concerned that the polls will squash turnout among Labour voters - I think Labour are too, as I noticed both Starmer and Streeting saying the same yesterday.

Seeing Wes Streeting on TV the other night, showing g his thuggish side, I don't want him representing me, thank you very much

Do you live in Ilford?

It's up to the people who live in Ilford whether he becomes an MP and nothing you can do about it.

Well jolly good for you. Unfortunately if they get in,he will he will be representing the people of this country, and not just you lot in Wigan.

Wigan? Why Wigan?

The way our system works, you are represented by the MP for your constituency, who has as much right to speak in the HoC as the MPs for Wigan and Ilford.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 16-Jun-24 07:46:37

We are still reading hyperbolic headlines like “Tory distinction” Reuters , “Tory election wipeout? Bloomberg and so on.

I honestly don’t for one minute this is correct. What I am wondering about is the level of “don’t knows” - does anyone know how these are accounted for in the figures?

I am wondering if the figures are totally incorrect and in fact we will have another Tory government?