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Whitewavemark2 Thu 23-May-24 07:29:20

I am not sure if it will be possible over the next 42 days, but I thought it would be fun to try to see. How the polls perform after the various gaffs that the politicians will inevitably make.

Whilst the gap is huge at the moment, it will almost certainly close as the days go by.

I think I’ll use Politico (poll of polls)

Casdon Fri 24-May-24 10:12:20

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

Day 1 passed without any notable incident.

Sunak, however did manage to peeve the Welsh over their failure to make the grade in the European football, and was caught out planting Tory councillors in order to get easy questions in the biscuit factory. He also seems intent on a one man success in breaking the U.K. carbon footprint in his jet.

Starmer seems to have managed to have got away without any incident, invisibility won’t cut it though, and he needs to make waves soon.

No movement in the polls.

You’re dead right, invisibility won’t cut it.I think he hopes to do and say as little as possible in the next six weeks but that won’t appeal to voters.
I heard his interview this morning on radio 4 and tho he seemed to be as honest as a politician is able about what can be achieved if he becomes PM, it wasn’t exactly inspiring.

I think you’ve misjudged his intention. He’s very visible in terms of TV and other interviews. Exposure isn’t an issue for him, he’s trying to distance himself from the gimmicks and slanging matches, and appeal to voters by coming across as pragmatic and competent. Whether he’ll succeed I don’t know, but that’s definitely his game.

Oreo Fri 24-May-24 10:20:49

Did he tell you that Casdon?
No future possible PM wants to balls things up for themselves in the time leading up to the vote, they can get caught out, mixed up, look silly and so on.Keeping as low a profile as they can would minimise chances of that.Add to that he isn’t a natural showboater and can seem dull at times.I know that none of that should matter but at election time it usually does.

Urmstongran Fri 24-May-24 10:24:47

Analysis for The Telegraph by the polling group More in Common found that if Reform secures 9 per cent of the vote the Conservatives will win 35 fewer seats as a result.

However, if it won 14 per cent, a level at which it has consistently polled in recent months, then the impact would be even starker, costing the Tories 64 MPs.

growstuff Fri 24-May-24 10:40:35

Urmstongran

Analysis for The Telegraph by the polling group More in Common found that if Reform secures 9 per cent of the vote the Conservatives will win 35 fewer seats as a result.

However, if it won 14 per cent, a level at which it has consistently polled in recent months, then the impact would be even starker, costing the Tories 64 MPs.

I hope that's persuaded you to vote for Reform wink.

Oreo Fri 24-May-24 10:44:20

The Tories will hammer that message home ( about Reform) I bet, or will be stupid if they don’t.

Wyllow3 Fri 24-May-24 10:45:44

Casdon

"I think you’ve misjudged his intention. He’s very visible in terms of TV and other interviews. Exposure isn’t an issue for him, he’s trying to distance himself from the gimmicks and slanging matches, and appeal to voters by coming across as pragmatic and competent. Whether he’ll succeed I don’t know, but that’s definitely his game."

Yes, thats why I respect him. I'm fed up of gimmicks and oven ready social media one liners I'll go for thoughtful and considered now after the last few years.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-24 10:47:24

Casdon

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

Day 1 passed without any notable incident.

Sunak, however did manage to peeve the Welsh over their failure to make the grade in the European football, and was caught out planting Tory councillors in order to get easy questions in the biscuit factory. He also seems intent on a one man success in breaking the U.K. carbon footprint in his jet.

Starmer seems to have managed to have got away without any incident, invisibility won’t cut it though, and he needs to make waves soon.

No movement in the polls.

You’re dead right, invisibility won’t cut it.I think he hopes to do and say as little as possible in the next six weeks but that won’t appeal to voters.
I heard his interview this morning on radio 4 and tho he seemed to be as honest as a politician is able about what can be achieved if he becomes PM, it wasn’t exactly inspiring.

I think you’ve misjudged his intention. He’s very visible in terms of TV and other interviews. Exposure isn’t an issue for him, he’s trying to distance himself from the gimmicks and slanging matches, and appeal to voters by coming across as pragmatic and competent. Whether he’ll succeed I don’t know, but that’s definitely his game.

Yes, absolutely.

We know that Starmer is keen to take politics back to a much less performative circus, where integrity, honesty and standards are expected from the countries leader,

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-24 10:47:56

Country’s 😡

Oreo Fri 24-May-24 10:55:32

Whitewavemark2
How can you agree with both me and Casdon on this aspect?
Tbf it was me that agreed with you when you said that Starmer needs to make waves soon and that invisibility won’t cut it.
It won’t.

Wyllow3 Fri 24-May-24 11:01:46

what we could do without

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-24 11:17:41

Oreo

Whitewavemark2
How can you agree with both me and Casdon on this aspect?
Tbf it was me that agreed with you when you said that Starmer needs to make waves soon and that invisibility won’t cut it.
It won’t.

Quite easily. I think that Starmer needs to reach out to the vast majority of voters who take zero interest in politics and will be entirely unaware of Labours plans, hopefully they will be made much clearer in the lead up to the election -thus “the waves” remark

With regard to his character, I want a steady, serious man of integrity and I think I have got that in Starmer, but I do think that this sort of personality does not necessarily gell with the general public,

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-24 11:18:26

Wyllow3

what we could do without

Starmer is refusing to dance to Sunak’s tune

LizzieDrip Fri 24-May-24 11:27:54

Starmer is refusing to dance to Sunak’s tune

Agreed WW. And, Oreo, I’m pleased that KS isn’t a ‘natural showboater’. We’ve had more than enough of them in recent government.

Wyllow3 Fri 24-May-24 11:35:17

Just the beginning of the right wing parts of the media attacks, WWM2.

Urmstongran Fri 24-May-24 11:37:50

Shame all the same that Keir Starmer is so bluddy boring to listen to! Once he’s up on his hind legs he just drones on. Ye gods. Beam me up Scottie … 🚀

Urmstongran Fri 24-May-24 11:38:46

growstuff

Urmstongran

Analysis for The Telegraph by the polling group More in Common found that if Reform secures 9 per cent of the vote the Conservatives will win 35 fewer seats as a result.

However, if it won 14 per cent, a level at which it has consistently polled in recent months, then the impact would be even starker, costing the Tories 64 MPs.

I hope that's persuaded you to vote for Reform wink.

🤣🤣🤣

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-24 12:03:39

Urmstongran

Shame all the same that Keir Starmer is so bluddy boring to listen to! Once he’s up on his hind legs he just drones on. Ye gods. Beam me up Scottie … 🚀

Well why bother? Your vote is going to Reform I think?

Did you see Tice on Newsnight last night being made mincemeat by whatshername (old age!) . I admired how he kept smiling through gritted teeth😄😮

Nicenanny3 Fri 24-May-24 12:30:15

Wyllow3

what we could do without

Why? Starmer is afraid.

Wyllow3 Fri 24-May-24 12:30:24

Tice intends to increase money in the pot by abolishing Net Zero 2050 agreements, one of the things BJ actually did reasonably well on. Disastrous consequences.

Nicenanny3 Fri 24-May-24 12:31:59

11:17Whitewavemark2

How will he do that if he doesn't appear on the TV?

Wyllow3 Fri 24-May-24 12:32:37

Nicenanny3

Wyllow3

what we could do without

Why? Starmer is afraid.

Proof he is "afraid" as opposed to not prioritising? Just Sunak game-playing.

Wyllow3 Fri 24-May-24 12:33:39

Nicenanny3

11:17Whitewavemark2

How will he do that if he doesn't appear on the TV?

He will appear on TV. There will be lots of broadcasts in different programmes and interviews.

Nicenanny3 Fri 24-May-24 12:34:03

Wyllow3

Tice intends to increase money in the pot by abolishing Net Zero 2050 agreements, one of the things BJ actually did reasonably well on. Disastrous consequences.

I don't believe in Net Zero, most voters want cheaper energy not silly green policies that cost them money.

Wyllow3 Fri 24-May-24 12:36:10

Why do you think point scoring macho contests are the best way to get complex policies across, Nicenanny3?

Wyllow3 Fri 24-May-24 12:37:33

Nicenanny3

Wyllow3

Tice intends to increase money in the pot by abolishing Net Zero 2050 agreements, one of the things BJ actually did reasonably well on. Disastrous consequences.

I don't believe in Net Zero, most voters want cheaper energy not silly green policies that cost them money.

I care enough about my grandchildren and their children to want them to have a world actually fit to live in.