Anybody else who doesn't know who to vote for?

Of course!

I am not choosy about my champagne, I know my place

Casdon

growstuff

This thread has turned into the script for a sitcom.

Maybe a Citizen Smith revival? Up the revolution!

That's what I was thinking - with Alf Garnett and Hyacinth Bucket.

GrannyGravy13

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t like Champagne, with the exception of Dom Perignon …

Depending in the vintage

I prefer Lanson Black Label.

growstuff DH had an acquaintance (cannot call him a friend) who I disliked instantly, he always referred to me as Hyacinth Bucket

GrannyGravy13

growstuff DH had an acquaintance (cannot call him a friend) who I disliked instantly, he always referred to me as ^Hyacinth Bucket^

Ooops!

Patricia Routledge went to the same school as I did, so maybe I should be Hyacinth.

Lanson Brut Rose is rather nice on a warm summer day/afternoon/evening, anytime really 🥂🍾

I could be the sister with space for a pony

Disclaimer, we no longer have any ponies or horses.

Wyllow3

Re post above - Former HMRC perm sec Edward Troup is part of small expert panel that will specifically and only look at how to boost tax compliance ie break into the problems of high levels of tax avoidance

Definitely not to implement what was suggested above.

Currently 4.8% which is 35.8 billion. Labour intend to increase the number of Civil Servants with the necessary skills and ability to investigate.

www.taxwatchuk.org/hmrc-tax-gap-2023/#:~:text=The%20amount%20of%20tax%20lost,bn%20in%20the%20previous%20year.

Tax avoidance a legal method used by any tax payer to minimize amountvof tax owed. Wonder how many Labour supporters have cash ISA, a legal way of avoiding paying no tax on interest earned. Are they going to ban those I wonder.
Personally don't trust Reeves or the old codger who is advised g her.

My vote doesn't really matter anyway because this seat is predicted to remain Conservative, even if there's a Labour landslide.

Nevertheless, I'll vote. I haven't decide yet who will get my X. Unfortunately, none of the parties (including Conservatives) put much effort into canvassing round here. It's just taken for granted that it will remain Conservative.

I haven't decided whether to vote with my beliefs or to vote tactically - if a tactical vote would make any difference. It would be a particular highlight for me if our smug, arrogant MP were to lose her seat and she experienced a Portillo moment on TV.

Freya5

Wyllow3

Re post above - Former HMRC perm sec Edward Troup is part of small expert panel that will specifically and only look at how to boost tax compliance ie break into the problems of high levels of tax avoidance

Definitely not to implement what was suggested above.

Currently 4.8% which is 35.8 billion. Labour intend to increase the number of Civil Servants with the necessary skills and ability to investigate.

www.taxwatchuk.org/hmrc-tax-gap-2023/#:~:text=The%20amount%20of%20tax%20lost,bn%20in%20the%20previous%20year.

Tax avoidance a legal method used by any tax payer to minimize amountvof tax owed. Wonder how many Labour supporters have cash ISA, a legal way of avoiding paying no tax on interest earned. Are they going to ban those I wonder.
Personally don't trust Reeves or the old codger who is advised g her.

Yawn! We know that Freya. The "old codger" used to be an advisor to Ken Clarke. Didn't you trust him either?

Asked and answered above already.

At the time of the evacuation from Kabul I got into an argument with our Tory MP which resulted in him blocking me and refusing to read my emails. I recently saw him giving a talk and was surprised to find that he seemed to be exceptionally nice and I wondered how he ended up as a Tory. Last week I bumped into him in a car park and we got talking. I started to feel that he's really a very good constituency MP, working on a lot of things I agree with and co operating fully with our Labour council. At the moment I know nothing about any of the other candidates, but I'm hoping they will turn out to be electable because I can't see myself voting for a Tory, however pleasant he is. GSM may not know anyone who votes Labour, but I don't know anyone who votes Conservative. Most of the people I know are scientists, teachers or doctors. Although my son is a delivery driver and certainly not a Tory.

Left of centre but how far to the left remains to be seen. I will be voting tactically for the party I calculate has the best chance of ousting the Tory in this constituency.

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t like Champagne, with the exception of Dom Perignon …

Depending in the vintage

I prefer Lanson Black Label.

I like a nice can of stout after me shift. Feet up on the pouffe, maybe a sneeky puff on a cig or a bag of Doritos.

GSM I guess I’m only “atypical” as (now) a LP supporter because I grew up in a staunchly Tory home, in a very Conservative part of Essex. Both my lovely parents were very right wing Tories with very good Grammar school educations and I was a member of the young Conservatives in my youth.

It’was years and years before I changed my political views, firstly to Lib Dem and then to Labour and I have many many reasons for doing so, I guess the most telling is having spent almost 30 years working in the City, within the Lloyd’s Insurance Market, after my first child I changed to work locally, then the public sector and at the same time became a Primary School Governor at a local, quite deprived school, which our last three children all attended. Things I saw and learnt and new “friends” opened my eyes to a whole new set of people that I genuinely didn’t really know existed.

I have friends of all political persuasions, those who don’t share my views simply agree to disagree, but we are able to discuss without falling out, likewise religion.

The one extremely valuable thing my parents gave me was encouragement to be a free thinker and to seek out new experiences.

zakouma66

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t like Champagne, with the exception of Dom Perignon …

Depending in the vintage

I prefer Lanson Black Label.

I like a nice can of stout after me shift. Feet up on the pouffe, maybe a sneeky puff on a cig or a bag of Doritos.

That's how I always imagined you - with your curlers and chiffon scarf!

(not really)

I am rather partial to a half of Guinness.

I don't drink any alcohol, so where does that leave me?

GrannyGravy13

Lanson Brut Rose is rather nice on a warm summer day/afternoon/evening, anytime really 🥂🍾

My tipple too.. anytime 🍾🍾

growstuff

I don't drink any alcohol, so where does that leave me?

Designated driver 🤣👍

Maybee I think you’ll remember I said

charmless and unconvincing

I didn’t mention charisma.

I think Tony Blair had charm, charisma, and was very convincing. He convinced many of us to vote for him. Margaret Thatcher, love her or hate her, was convincing (I didn’t vote for her, but I can understand why many did.) Theresa May had a certain kind of soundness about her, of course, I think she was a vicar’s daughter. Cameron was certainly charming, but not very convincing. Harold Wilson felt trustworthy, but James Callaghan felt (to me) not very capable. I’ve deliberately avoided mentioning the obvious person as it skews the analysis.

As for Sunak and Starmer, I feel neither has much personality, and neither instills me with confidence. But nor do any of the others!

By the way, I like Champagne and I like Prosecco.
What does that make me?
An alcoholic maybe?

I haven’t got space for a pony though.

vegansrock

Why people are more concerned with gender ideology and a few p more tax when under the Tories tax is at the highest since WW2. Why water quality and the environment aren’t seen as more important beats me.

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