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Anybody else who doesn't know who to vote for?

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meddijess Thu 23-May-24 12:07:00

I would not vote Conservative, but I don't trust Labour not to open the floodgates to yet more people who really don't like us and want to do us harm. Who to vote for - any ideas?

MissAdventure Tue 28-May-24 23:33:22

The message was loud and clear.

Rosie51 Wed 29-May-24 00:36:28

MaizieD

12.46
If she'd posted a picture of a treelined road with BMWs and Audis parked on the drives, just for the context of the neighbourhood, would she have been accused of sneering at the middle classes?
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Sorry, was that a bit too subtle?

Does posting a picture of somewhere automatically mean one is being critical of, or offensive about, the subject?

MaizieD you're far too intelligent not to see the prejudice, stereotyping and just plain snobbery of Thornberry's tweet. I'm really disappointed that you seem to need to obfuscate and avoid the obvious. You still haven't indicated what you think she was trying to convey in that tweet! OK if you can't think of an alternative meaning, just admit that, say you admire the woman or whatever, but this disingenuous posting just diminishes the respect you've been held in, even with posters who disagree with you on some issues.
She didn't post a picture of treelined road with BMWs and Audis parked on the drives, she posted a photo of one house displaying 3 St George's flags, with a white transit van parked on the drive. Anyone who isn't deliberately being disingenuous would see that.

SGBoo Thu 06-Jun-24 11:20:19

What did Labour do wrong other than to follow Bush in the alleged WMD debarcle, yet there are so many comments here about them opening the floodgates to non Brits. The floodgates have been opened by the Tories and we need them shut.

I'm voting Labour, they have the best record in economic, social (including rights for minorities and vulnerable people) health, defence, policing (should I go on) performance. They shielded us from the last global recession too. I dont trust Farage as far as I could throw him and Tories will never get a vote from me, corporation tax for SME's will be 25% for LEs itll be whatever they negotiate with Treasury and I cant forgive them for 20%VAT either. Theyve run this country into the ground. If youre unsure go look at stats, the data is there for all of us to see.

Iam64 Thu 06-Jun-24 15:58:03

Subpoena 🤙👏

DiamondLily Thu 06-Jun-24 16:20:14

I do think Thornberry is a sneering, patronising politician, trying to pretend she’s some sort of working class woman. She’s not, and makes herself look silly pretending she is.

I also thought that the contrived persona of Johnson - scruffy hair, ill fitting clothes, man of the people - unconvincing and patronising. He’s a grifter whilst sitting on a fortune.

I think Farage is a con-man - pretending to be working class man, with his pints of beer when the cameras are rolling. Finest claret and moving his wealth around, when the cameras aren’t there.

They all play a game. But, I vote on party and not on individuals.

I’ll vote for who I think needs to be running the country.

silverlining48 Thu 06-Jun-24 16:21:54

If people are satisfied with what the Tories have done over the last 14 years then go ahead, vote for them and take your chances with another 4 years of their hopelessly ineffectual tenure,

I think most sensible people will agree they have made a total mess of almost everything and all apart from the already wealthy are worse off in every way since they have been in government.

DiamondLily Thu 06-Jun-24 16:31:53

As do I, which is why I will vote for whenever I think might do better at getting us out of this mess. And, it won’t be the Tories.

Iam64 Thu 06-Jun-24 16:38:07

I typed SGBoo not Supboena 🤣. Gremlins is predictive test

MayBee70 Thu 06-Jun-24 17:20:57

The Conservative Party is in no fit state to govern this country. It has lost many (most?) of its good, decent MP’s, They’ve either left of their own volition or been thrown out by Johnson. Whatever anyone thinks of Labour the Tories need some time out to sort themselves out. Which I hope they do because the thought of Reform being the main opposition party terrifies/sickens me. Johnson wanted to be seen as a second Churchill. What he has done is to possibly destroy his own party.

Blossoming Sun 09-Jun-24 16:10:09

I feel like I’m just searching for the ‘least bad’ option rather than the best.

This cartoon really resonates.

Dingleberry Sun 09-Jun-24 16:18:12

Me too.

Dingleberry Sun 09-Jun-24 16:19:18

I think Reform party will be the party that does what it says it will do. I do not trust any of the others.

MayBee70 Sun 09-Jun-24 17:30:18

Dingleberry

I think Reform party will be the party that does what it says it will do. I do not trust any of the others.

And what precisely is that?

Iam64 Sun 09-Jun-24 17:42:30

What does the Reform party say it will do,Dingleberry? They seem to name a candidate, then sack them in days when their racist social media posts catch them out

MayBee70 Sun 09-Jun-24 18:44:52

Yes. We’re waiting to hear.

RosiesMaw Sun 09-Jun-24 19:18:17

It’s becoming easier by the day though to know who NOT to vote for however.

My favourite candidate so far is “None of the above”

Mt61 Tue 11-Jun-24 00:06:25

meddijess

I would not vote Conservative, but I don't trust Labour not to open the floodgates to yet more people who really don't like us and want to do us harm. Who to vote for - any ideas?

Reform for me- labour will get in but we need an opposition- vote Tory & it’s a wasted vote (we started on the left, moved to the right no better.. boats still landing on our shores

MayBee70 Tue 11-Jun-24 01:35:17

So how exactly will Reform stop the boats?