Anybody else who doesn't know who to vote for?

LizzieDrip

Cosy I too am keen to know why people say they ‘don’t trust Keir Starmer’. No-one appears to be able (or willing) to come up with an answer to, what is, a reasonable question. All I hear is a repeat of ‘don’t trust him’ … but please tell us why. I genuinely want to understand people’s thinking!

Me too, hence my constant question.

To me he comes across as a safe pair of hands, a man with integrity, with all the flaws normal humans have and a genuine desire to make our country a better place for everyone.

I don’t care that he isn’t charismatic, he is a well educated, hard working, normal man who clearly loves his family and his country. He’s certainly not a “chancer”.

Nicenanny3

Cossy

Nicenanny3

I don’t trust the Tories. I don’t trust them because they’ve lied (Partygate), they screwed the mortgage rate/housing market (Truss), they allowed people to die needlessly during Covid (throwing care home residents out of hospital, failing to act quickly enough at the beginning to stop large events, “eat out to help out”, nurses and PPE), I don’t trust them with finance because they’ve spent ££££ in “wasted” schemes (track and trace, money given to the French, the entire Rwandan debacle), they’ve backtracked on climate change.

These are just a few of the many many examples of why I won’t be voting Tory ever again (yes many years ago I supported them and voted for them!)

It’s great we are a democracy, able to choose who we want to trust, who we vote for and the freedom to debate and express views/beliefs/ethos on sites like this.

I respect your right to your own opinions, I’m simply asking “why”?

Because I don't trust them mainly on immigration, I personally can't stand Starmer, Rayner or Vyette Cooper. I actually support Reform but am thinking of voting Conservative now. So no evidence to present just a gut feeling they would not be fit to govern.

Can you tell me which MP’s you do trust?

I too would very much like to hear why no trust in Starmer

Germanshepherdsmum

*Cossy*, I paid higher rate and additional rate tax for years. I have done my bit, and some.

As have many of us.

Lizzie, I have posted elsewhere that I don’t trust Labour not to increase personal taxation and the threat of a wealth tax hasn’t gone away, it will simply not be admitted to whilst voters are being courted. There has been vague talk about increased ‘commercial taxation’, of which I have yet to find details but any increased tax burden on a commercial entity will find its way through to increased prices for consumers. Quite simply, under a Labour government I expect anyone who pays tax will be paying more of it, whether directly or by stealth.

To me he comes across as a safe pair of hands, a man with integrity, with all the flaws normal humans have and a genuine desire to make our country a better place for everyone. I don’t care that he isn’t charismatic, he is a well educated, hard working, normal man who clearly loves his family and his country. He’s certainly not a “chancer”

That’s how he appears to me too Cossy. So I really do want to hear people’s reasons for not trusting him. Do they see something that I’m missing?

He probably needs to employ Maizie as an economic adviser. He said this morning that he had abandoned his promise to end university tuition fees because he couldn’t do that and improve the NHS. Is reality beginning to strike?

11:47MayBee70

Rishi Sunak I think he's doing the best he can for our country. I also liked Suella Braverman I think it was a mistake getting rid of her that is why a lot of voters went to Reform but I've now changed my mind although my husband is still voting Reform if they have a candidate in our area, a safe blue seat.

Germanshepherdsmum

*Lizzie*, I have posted elsewhere that I don’t trust Labour not to increase personal taxation and the threat of a wealth tax hasn’t gone away, it will simply not be admitted to whilst voters are being courted. There has been vague talk about increased ‘commercial taxation’, of which I have yet to find details but any increased tax burden on a commercial entity will find its way through to increased prices for consumers. Quite simply, under a Labour government I expect anyone who pays tax will be paying more of it, whether directly or by stealth.

I agree. There will be a higher tax burden, but also what what I can gather as well as VAT on fee paying schools, the LP appears to be concentrating on closing tax loopholes and chasing those who fail to pay their correct taxes.

They’ve pledged to keep the pensioners triple lock and are looking at capital gains and inheritance tax as well as lifetime allowance changes.

Any money raised/saved will be reinvested in public services. Tbh I wouldn’t expect any less from a labour government.

Quite simply, under a Labour government I expect anyone who pays tax will be paying more of it, whether directly or by stealth

GSM If secure, properly-functioning public services are an outcome of that, so be it. Currently, we are paying the highest tax in 80 years yet public services are on their knees - so how is this working? In an altruistic society, everyone pays their fair share into the pot in order to benefit all.

Germanshepherdsmum

He probably needs to employ Maizie as an economic adviser. He said this morning that he had abandoned his promise to end university tuition fees because he couldn’t do that and improve the NHS. Is reality beginning to strike?

At least he’s being honest about it now, before the GE.

Those who want to get the Tories out but don't know who to vote for might like to have a look at this tactical.vote/

To be honest, who wants to pay more tax? If we are honest none of us, but I’m willing to make that sacrifice if it results in stable, reliable public services. So many parts of the public sector are understaffed and the results can be De as tiny, especially within social care and the police. Something has to be done and in 14 years things have just got worse and worse and freezing the personal allowance was the final nail in the coffin for me as it affects those low income working people and many pensioners the most.

So sorry, fat fingers and mad auto correct!! “Results can be devastating” that should read, not the gibberish I posted!

Not abandoned but put on the shelf because the NHS takes priority. Sounds very sensible to me. Plans of course have to be adjusted as the economy has continued to spiral ever downwards. We have had very little growth since the Tories have been in power, and it has flatlined entirely over the past three years (I’ll leave it to your own judgement why that might be), interest rates are not expected to continue to drop after perhaps a drop in the summer, and in fact are expected to rise again, during autumn/winter.

It does take much to understand why Sunak has chosen now to go to the country.

That was in response to gsmand student fees

Germanshepherdsmum

He probably needs to employ Maizie as an economic adviser. He said this morning that he had abandoned his promise to end university tuition fees because he couldn’t do that and improve the NHS. Is reality beginning to strike?

What is the problem with an MP being honest? And, is it all about tax? I’ve always said I’d be happy to be worse off if we could have a fairer society with properly funded public services.

Jeanieallergy21

Those who want to get the Tories out but don't know who to vote for might like to have a look at this tactical.vote/

Thank you.

Nicenanny3

11:47MayBee70

Rishi Sunak I think he's doing the best he can for our country. I also liked Suella Braverman I think it was a mistake getting rid of her that is why a lot of voters went to Reform but I've now changed my mind although my husband is still voting Reform if they have a candidate in our area, a safe blue seat.

So it’s mainly about ‘the boats’. Can I tell you now that, as soon as he loses the election Sunak will resign and he’ll be off to America, that’s how much this country means to him.

Whitewavemark2

Heaven help us if the majority of people vote on a “gut feeling

Well what are you voting on promises/blind faith that it will all pan right? Starmer or any on his front benches have no track record on running the country do they.

MissAdventure

Jeanieallergy21

Those who want to get the Tories out but don't know who to vote for might like to have a look at this tactical.vote/

Thank you.

It will take a landslide shift to oust our MP Miss A. Last GE they got 76.7% of the vote with a majority of 26,634.

They have been here since 2010.

I think the reason people aren’t enamoured with Labour is because they are being honest with the electorate. We’re so used to politicians promising us the moon on a stick (Brexit; 40 new hospitals; levelling up etc) that, when politicians say it like it is, people think it’s boring, mundane, uninspiring… But its honest, and honestly is something we’re not used to in government any more. So much so, people just don’t recognise it!

12:16MayBee70

Yes he probably will if he loses he will have no choice the Conservative Party will want a new leader. Yes immigration is a top issue with me but also I think Rishi Sunak is a safe pair of hands in our troubled world. I don't trust Starmer/Labour on security.

I don't think they'll be outed, grannygravy.
I didn't realise thy had such a majority, though, until I checked!!

I listened to the interview this morning and starmer quite rightly says it can’t all be done at once so hes not prepared to make promises he can’t be sure he can keep.

It seems to me judging by listening to conservatives on the today programme and question time over-the last couple of days is that the way Conservatives will fight this election is to spend as much time as possible slandering Labour people and their policies.
Already it’s reported that there is pressure being put on parts of the media not to support Labour, but nothing at all said about how they will go about sorting out their mess and their broken promises, too many to list, over the last 14 years.
They have been a disgrace.