Ah well Wyllow3 you could be right.
Or not!
Time will tell. 🤞
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Hmm.
Standing as a Reform MP after all?
Emigrating to America to canvass for Trump?
Joining the Tory party?
None of the above?
I shall tune in out of curiosity.
Ah well Wyllow3 you could be right.
Or not!
Time will tell. 🤞
Urmstongran
I’m not so sure DiamondLily. Both Labour and Conservative have not worked out that most people now have nothing to lose in voting Reform. Nothing.
Many were going to not even bother voting. Voting either Labour or Conservative is the choice between being hung or shot.
Nothing to lose? Common decency perhaps??
Yes Siope there certainly IS a lot at stake, you’re spot on. Which is why I’m voting Reform. I’m sick of the same old excuses from government. Also - just a wild guess - maybe Fred wotshisname (not looking back I’ll lose me post) is one of the many who isn’t keen on NF anyway so that would taint his opinion of him. Obviously I don’t know him and I’m only surmising here!
MayBee70
Urmstongran
I’m not so sure DiamondLily. Both Labour and Conservative have not worked out that most people now have nothing to lose in voting Reform. Nothing.
Many were going to not even bother voting. Voting either Labour or Conservative is the choice between being hung or shot.Nothing to lose? Common decency perhaps??
You’ve lost me. I’m decent. NF is honest. You may not like him or his politics - I get that, a lot don’t - but a lot do. And he’s articulate, answers questions put to him and ‘does what it says on the tin’. You’d just choose a different tin. Fair enough!
I’m not here to persuade people. I’m not a cheerleader for NF per se but I am saying how I’m voting. He’s very popular and I bet he’s going to surprise an awful lot of people!
Farage addresses Clacton this morning (rally on the pier). As you can see, he tackles the major issues of the day.
"Farage claims Tories and Labour 'not genuinely patriotic as he tells Clacton crowd it's 'most patriotic town in Britain'
Nigel Farage has told crowds of supporters who gathered in Clacton – the Essex constituency where he is to make his eight bid to become an MP – I that minds of the young were being “poisoned” in schools as he pledged to stand against what he described as “woke nonsense
The newly-appointed leader of Reform UK (he appointed himself) pledged to bring investment and jobs to the area, home to some of the most deprived communities in Britain, and claimed that the Tories and Labour were not “genuinely patriotic
Farage recalled canvassing with the area’s former Ukip MP Douglas Carswell – without mentioning the bitter falling out between the two men – and went on to claim that the Conservatives had “betrayed the trust” of Brexit voters.
“These people, unlike you in Clacton are not genuinely patriotic people. They don’t believe in Britain and the British people in the way you do,” said Farage, who described Clacton as the most patriotic town in Britain
Throw around a few buzz words to the town only second in the country at to Brexit vote, et - voila!
From the Guardian's ongoing news feed of todays events as they progress. 13.07
Urmstongran
Yes Siope there certainly IS a lot at stake, you’re spot on. Which is why I’m voting Reform. I’m sick of the same old excuses from government. Also - just a wild guess - maybe Fred wotshisname (not looking back I’ll lose me post) is one of the many who isn’t keen on NF anyway so that would taint his opinion of him. Obviously I don’t know him and I’m only surmising here!
What are you hoping Reform will do that the other parties won’t do
They're patriotic, thats what!
Farage had milkshake thrown over him
I’m hoping Whitewave that Reform shake things up a bit. Gawd knows this country needs change (just not Starmer’s vision - for me anyway “the party of envy” - no thanks). Stop promising and then not delivering. Having the COURAGE to believe in our wonderful UK. We here sneer and denigrate patriotism and pride in ourselves. I find it so sad.
Oops! Just seen NF has had banana milkshake thrown all over him in Clacton by a youngish woman. The Tik Tok generation of debate?
What are you hoping Reform will do that the other parties won’t do
Nobody seems to know?
So, Nigel Farage and his henchman 30p Lee Anderson are steering Reform now? I can't help thinking Tice has recruited them as a couple of stooges to deflect any brickbats which may be coming his way.
What a shower!
Actually this milkshake stunt will be electoral gold for Farage as he’ll be on the front pages again!
Never mind mae13 you don’t have to vote for him. 😁
All parties are claiming to be patriotic atm.
I couldn't help being amused that Farage had little else to offer in his keynote speech but this word, as empty rhetoric.
Bit like "Make America Great" Trump.
Oh I don’t know, Wyllow3. This:
“ Nigel Farage has urged the voters of Clacton to “send him to Parliament to be a bloody nuisance” as he relaunched Reform’s general election campaign this afternoon.
Addressing a large crowd in the seat he will fight for on July 4, the Reform leader said: “I will stand up and fight for you, I will give you my best and I will do what I have done for the last quarter of a century in politics.
“I will be unafraid, despite what everybody says, despite what names they call me, they are so stupid it only encourages me really, in fact, send me to Parliament to be a bloody nuisance.”
Gets my vote anyway. 🇬🇧
Hey -
Reform poses a threat to Tories in 28 seats.
YouGov data indicates Nigel Farage’s party is expected to win more than 20 per cent of the vote across England’s North and Midlands.
But he didn't mention any Reform policies and outline how they might help the people of Clacton.
It's all so completely narcissistic
I this, I that, call me names I lap it up, I'm different from all "them".
I'm not fan of Farage and not remotely interested in politics but that young woman should be charged. That could have been acid.
Well, the fire has been lit, and there is no way of predicting how brightly it will burn.
zakouma66
*What are you hoping Reform will do that the other parties won’t do*
Nobody seems to know?
Oh I have an enormous long list.
But dont have time to list it all now.
Wont have time for a week.
Will list next week assuming I get time.
Usual stuff though. So dont get excited.
Urmstongran
I’m hoping Whitewave that Reform shake things up a bit. Gawd knows this country needs change (just not Starmer’s vision - for me anyway “the party of envy” - no thanks). Stop promising and then not delivering. Having the COURAGE to believe in our wonderful UK. We here sneer and denigrate patriotism and pride in ourselves. I find it so sad.
Oops! Just seen NF has had banana milkshake thrown all over him in Clacton by a youngish woman. The Tik Tok generation of debate?
But in what way do they need to shake things up.
Shake things up in parliament?
Media?
Economy?
Constitution?
I’m puzzled as to what they have to offer that others haven’t?
What they have to offer is no experience whatsoever of government, nor the ability to write a manifesto that doesn’t look like a teenager’s attempt at a power point demonstration.
Delivering on promises Whitewave.
Not taking us for fools.
Reassuring us it’s okay to be patriotic. It’s not a dirty word.
Listening to the voters who have felt betrayed (Brexit, not enacted by a long chalk but we know the Civil Servants don’t want it so we’re duplicitous whenever possible).
Lawless London (and a City near you, no doubt).
Raising of the Personal Allowance instead of this fiscal drag.
I could bore you by getting on my soap box but I’ll spare you (all).
🤣
Hey - I heard it was a big crowd in Clacton and thought it was a bit of click bait exaggeration - but then saw the clip. Incredible!
Urmstongran
Delivering on promises Whitewave.
Not taking us for fools.
Reassuring us it’s okay to be patriotic. It’s not a dirty word.
Listening to the voters who have felt betrayed (Brexit, not enacted by a long chalk but we know the Civil Servants don’t want it so we’re duplicitous whenever possible).
Lawless London (and a City near you, no doubt).
Raising of the Personal Allowance instead of this fiscal drag.
I could bore you by getting on my soap box but I’ll spare you (all).
🤣
Hey - I heard it was a big crowd in Clacton and thought it was a bit of click bait exaggeration - but then saw the clip. Incredible!
Not all good though. He had a drink lobbed all over him.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pp7yg0y3po
Oh bloody hell, the little flag is back! Time for a break I think.
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