Seems Farage has an announcement to make at 4pm today.

Judging by the latest large poll, Labour should be smiling.

It predicted the Tories will be wiped out, and Reform won’t actually win a single seat, although they will split the ring wing vote numbers.🙂

Sorry, forgot the link.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13489645/Labour-majority-100-seats-election.html

That article shows his utter arrogance!

"Explaining his change of heart, Mr Farage said: 'The other thing that really shook me in a way last week were the number of people coming up to me in the street saying 'Nigel, why aren't you standing?''

"Mr Farage could find his previous views on Essex come back to haunt him, after he told the Times earlier this year: 'Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?'

How does he hope to achieve "Net Zero migration?"

Greta

Farage got very irritated with Mishal Husain this morning. She asked the wrong questions. He suddenly lost his patience and 'charm'.

There's a clip of the interview up on the front page of I player. the ending is very funny. He denies something and Mishal says, "it's on your website". He says, "give me another 12 hours..."

Clearly the Farage mind can be easily changed. I cannot understand why this unelected man still has such influence in political matters. His emergency announcement was given the media attention of an announcement from the Palace. However, he may well win a seat this time. He is using Clacton as a means to an end and I doubt that he will do anything to address the high unemployment there. Those poor constituents.

How does he hope to achieve "Net Zero migration?"

The daft, incompetent bugger has already changed his mind on that too. He said in the same Radio 4 interview this morning that +600,000 would be his new target.

The +600,000 is only a variation on what all the parties say they want, which is numbers of specifically controlled immigration into jobs that need filling. Different policies on same of course.

But no answers on net zero migration, nor genuine asylum seekers.

Whitewavemark2

Urmstongran

To be honest I’m not so sure ‘it’s good news for Labour’. I think Reform will pinch seats from them too - especially in the Red Wall constituencies. Yes they’re Labour (hence Red Wall tag’ but some (many) voted Brexit and have been let down - and know that Starmer wants ever closer ties with the EU so they may surprise the pollsters yet.

The top 3 priorities

The cost of living

NHS

The economy

Brexit isn’t mentioned at all.

Not true. Literally in the first paragraph of the Reform Policy documents, if you check their website -
- Britain has so much potential. Our country is full of talent and energy. Brexit is the opportunity of a lifetime. Yet the challenges we face are vast. Both Labour and Tory governments have broken promise after promise. They have destroyed trust in our democracy and let down the British people.
And also in the second paragraph -
- Our country is worse off, both financially and culturally. The economy isn't growing. It is being wrecked by record taxes, wasteful government spending and nanny state regulations. Record mass immigration has damaged our country. The small boats crisis threatens our security. Brexit has been betrayed. Multiculturalism has imported separate communities that reject our way of life. 'Woke' ideology has captured our public institutions.

Side dish of multiculturalism as "rejecting our way of life".

(not linking, wouldn't want to be seen to be promoting this nonsense).

NoraBone

Whitewavemark2

Urmstongran

To be honest I’m not so sure ‘it’s good news for Labour’. I think Reform will pinch seats from them too - especially in the Red Wall constituencies. Yes they’re Labour (hence Red Wall tag’ but some (many) voted Brexit and have been let down - and know that Starmer wants ever closer ties with the EU so they may surprise the pollsters yet.

The top 3 priorities

The cost of living

NHS

The economy

Brexit isn’t mentioned at all.

Not true. Literally in the first paragraph of the Reform Policy documents, if you check their website -
- Britain has so much potential. Our country is full of talent and energy. Brexit is the opportunity of a lifetime. Yet the challenges we face are vast. Both Labour and Tory governments have broken promise after promise. They have destroyed trust in our democracy and let down the British people.
And also in the second paragraph -
- Our country is worse off, both financially and culturally. The economy isn't growing. It is being wrecked by record taxes, wasteful government spending and nanny state regulations. Record mass immigration has damaged our country. The small boats crisis threatens our security. Brexit has been betrayed. Multiculturalism has imported separate communities that reject our way of life. 'Woke' ideology has captured our public institutions.

Side dish of multiculturalism as "rejecting our way of life".

(not linking, wouldn't want to be seen to be promoting this nonsense).

I should have made myself clearer.

I wasn’t talking about Reform

I wash talking out the top priorities of the. Voting public.

I apologise, Whitewavemark2 - (not quoting to make that longer). I would absolutely agree with those top three.

I think if a voter has children the concerns would be childcare and education.
17-22 it's University or jobs.
20's-40's it's homes and jobs.
50-60's it's pensions.

But those three apply across the board, Cost of Living, NHS, Economy. Right now with increasing prices, NHS coming out of a pandemic, these should be at the forefront of any Party promises. Small boats, gender identification, VAT on private education - no, tell me what you're doing on those big three, and you'll have my attention on the other stuff.

That’s OK🙂

I think that there could be a fourth to add to the big three, in that polluted rivers and beaches are concerning most of the voter demographics you list, Norah

And what about the NHS?

Oops, didn't read your post properly.. forget my last sentence

Galaxy

Right so if he does become an MP in the future his wealth wont be important? It's just now whilst he isnt an MP?
I am not a reform supporter and what happens in this election with regard to them is irrelevant, it's what happens after the election that will matter. But I am sure it will be very puzzling to everyone when reform (if you're lucky it will be reform it may in fact be something way worse than reform) become the opposition.

He will be receiving a pension as a former MEP, from the very organisation which he spent time battling against.

Good afternoon everyone. Blimey this thread’s got legs hasn’t it? I just came on line and was surprised it was still going to be honest. Feelings have been mightily stirred it seems.

The fact is that whatever Reform / Farage is, or is not. It most definitely is an alternative to the predictable two party state which is getting this country nowhere. Just look at the promises being made by each of them, in an attempt to outdo each other...promises that we know damn well will never be kept.

My mind’s made up and I'm going to vote Reform..i've had enough.

I know Farage fulfills the saying that the empty vessels make the most noise, but he, like Diane Abbott last week, are sucking the oxygen away from the important stuff.

Only Labour or the Tories will win on the 4th - and people voting for others won’t get the party they might want.🤷‍♀️

I’m not so sure DiamondLily. Both Labour and Conservative have not worked out that most people now have nothing to lose in voting Reform. Nothing.

Many were going to not even bother voting. Voting either Labour or Conservative is the choice between being hung or shot.

I would say that after reading (as above, requited for convenience))

www.facebook.com/pvwlancs/videos/341149145660426/

We have everything to lose in terms of voting Farage/Reform.

Our sense of Decency, Moderation, our UK natural dislike of extremes, a suspicion of demagogues

re- posted not requited 🙂

If the two main parties have made promises "we know damn well will never be kept" what guaranties does the reform party give us their promises WILL be kept?

Fred Sirieix, who was on a reality tv programme with Farage last year says:

“I spoke at length and extensively with Nigel Farage for 3 weeks while in the jungle. I wanted to make my own mind up about him and his views. Conclusion is simple. He was very good at washing the dishes in the river but when it comes to politics he has no plan and no substance.

No vision. No concrete policies. He is not interested in making the UK / the world a better place. He just rants.”

In fact, Urms, there’s a lot at stake in this election, and a lot to lose. Thankfully, voting Reform won’t really have a significant impact, unless it’s splitting the right-wing vote a little.

Urmstongran

I’m not so sure DiamondLily. Both Labour and Conservative have not worked out that most people now have nothing to lose in voting Reform. Nothing.

Many were going to not even bother voting. Voting either Labour or Conservative is the choice between being hung or shot.

You may be right - time will tell. But, none of the polls, no matter who is commissioning them, forecast Reform getting any seats.

They may well hoover up Tory votes, as UKIP did before, but it’s all about the seats.

And I don’t think Reform will make any difference at all to the overall results. The LDs might get a few more seats though - they are popular in some areas.

Greta

If the two main parties have made promises "we know damn well will never be kept" what guaranties does the reform party give us their promises WILL be kept?

I suppose we don’t Greta. Good point. However after the posturing and promises enough to fill our bellies, it’s worth a punt. In my opinion!

Actually DiamondLily I think the LD’s won’t be popular as such - just that they will hoover up votes from people who just don’t want Labour OR Conservative. Mind you Ed Davy will be high on hopes that FINALLY his party is popular. 😁

Posturing and promises" are exactly what Farage offers, and always has.

Tice maybe another matter, but I havent read/heard a speech.