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Seems Farage has an announcement to make at 4pm today.

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Urmstongran Mon 03-Jun-24 13:41:46

Hmm.
Standing as a Reform MP after all?
Emigrating to America to canvass for Trump?
Joining the Tory party?
None of the above?

I shall tune in out of curiosity.

Galaxy Tue 04-Jun-24 21:39:01

Even the talk that it's good because it will split the Tories vote. Sorry but I think that's shortsighted. What happens in this election is irrelevant. I dont pretend to know what will happen, he may build a base with just reform, he may join/split the Tories, reform may implode as small parties often do, but if you keep ignoring and/or demonising this section of the population it wont end well.

Galaxy Tue 04-Jun-24 21:40:04

That's probably true Maizie. I should fit right in then wink

zakouma66 Tue 04-Jun-24 21:50:49

Dinahmo

zakouma66

his opponents dont possess one ounce of critical or strategic thinking

All of them? Thats quite a claim.

Not really.

Well of course its a rather strange claim?

We can insert any name. Anybody who is an opponent of.............doesn't possess one ounce of critical or strategic thinking.

Makes no sense whatsoever.

MaizieD Tue 04-Jun-24 22:29:52

but if you keep ignoring and/or demonising this section of the population it wont end well.

I really think that you make some of this up, Galaxy. There's no 'ignoring' going on on this thread, nor, as I recall, has anyone been demonised, apart from Farage.

What I can see is a degree of bafflement that such a deeply flawed individual could gain such an uncritical following. Just as people were baffled by Johnson's followers and are baffled by Trump's.

I also find it strange that only one side of the 'debate' is expected to exercise critical thinking skills...

MaizieD Wed 05-Jun-24 07:01:54

Interesting article from The Spectator

'How the tories created Nigel Farage

www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-the-tories-created-nigel-farage/

(I hope this isn't paywalled)

Galaxy Wed 05-Jun-24 07:35:51

It is I am afraid Maizie. I subscribed to the Spectator for quite a while, but have let it lapse.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 05-Jun-24 08:10:48

No it isn’t behind a paywall.

Interesting article.

Feed the Dane - yes that’s exactly what the Tories have done and my goodness look where it has got us!

Greta Wed 05-Jun-24 08:28:02

Nigel Farage reminds me of an excitable child who is always looking for a new toy.

zakouma66 Wed 05-Jun-24 09:16:55

So here we are again. No talk of policies from Reform , some nonsense of not being afraid to be patriotic from NF and anybody who doesn't agree with him has no crictical thinking skills.

I wonder why some people fall for these Jack the Lad types. The same people who thought BJ was their mate/ a real character.

maddyone Wed 05-Jun-24 09:35:39

I really don’t know why you’re all getting het up about it. Even if Nigel Farage was to win his seat, it won’t change the outcome of the election.
It’s an entertaining thread though.

Maremia Wed 05-Jun-24 11:31:03

Now some folk are saying that he was in on the stunt, to get publicity. The plot thickens. Was the stunt fake news? Was saying it is 'fake news', is that fake news? Depends on whether or not the girl is actually charged by the Police. No matter what, he is headlining, so a win for him.

BevSec Wed 05-Jun-24 11:40:38

Nicenanny3 absolutely agree with you. Nigel Farage is not racist but he cares deeply about this country and the quality of life of people living here. You are so right about people in the real world voting for him and his values.

Amalegra Wed 05-Jun-24 11:41:22

Not so keen on Farage but the Reform Party has some interesting, if controversial, ideas. They obviously will not win the election, it is more than likely that Labour will, but the next government must be taken to task for policies they will strive to enact. On present performance, the Tories are a sorry lot and I’m not sure they will make the effective Opposition that any democracy needs. Everyone is expecting a new Labour government to be the salvation of the country. With their present set of rather nebulous policies, including some that are downright divisive, I am not at all sure.

HousePlantQueen Wed 05-Jun-24 11:47:07

BevSec

Nicenanny3 absolutely agree with you. Nigel Farage is not racist but he cares deeply about this country and the quality of life of people living here. You are so right about people in the real world voting for him and his values.

grin grin grin etc..........walks off chuckling about 'cares deeply about this country'.........

zakouma66 Wed 05-Jun-24 11:59:54

maddyone

I really don’t know why you’re all getting het up about it. Even if Nigel Farage was to win his seat, it won’t change the outcome of the election.
It’s an entertaining thread though.

I wouldn't say het up exactly. Maybe a little. Gobsmacked that we have come to this.

Babamaman Wed 05-Jun-24 12:14:46

He is the most despicable person ever. He probably does not even know where Clacton is?
I just pray, pray that the people of Clacton have the sense and honour not to vote for him, anyone but Farage - the most evil of evil 🙏

DiamondLily Wed 05-Jun-24 12:24:01

Farage has been around a long time. He makes a lot of noise, but has never actually won a Westminster seat - so, he’s actually fairly irrelevant to it all. One of two parties will be in charge on July 5th - and Farage won’t be in either of them..🙄

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 05-Jun-24 12:24:17

I doubt he is the most despicable person ever. Hitler? Stalin?

DiamondLily Wed 05-Jun-24 12:25:32

Germanshepherdsmum

I doubt he is the most despicable person ever. Hitler? Stalin?

I think he’s a self serving little creep, but not really evil. He’s an empty vessel, making a lot of noise🙄

Wyllow3 Wed 05-Jun-24 12:28:35

Its a copycat

"BREXIT PARTY LEADER NIGEL FARAGE IS ESCORTED TO A CAR AFTER HAVING WHAT IS THOUGHT TO BE A MILKSHAKE THROWN OVER HIM AS HE VISITS NORTHUMBERLAND STREET IN NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE DURING A WHISTLE-STOP UK TOUR ON MAY 20, 2019"

Wyllow3 Wed 05-Jun-24 12:30:10

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farages-most-controversial-moments-ukip-brexit-b1122381.html

Farage is racist/mysogynist - read article on his remarks over time.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 05-Jun-24 12:32:03

I think we all know that. It doesn’t make him ‘the most despicable person ever’ though. I think DiamondLily sums him up well.

Wyllow3 Wed 05-Jun-24 12:38:49

Do people voting for him think it's perfectly alright - equally possible they just don't know.

To think they know and don't care, now that is scary. To give an anti-semite a place as an MP -how can that be OK.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 05-Jun-24 12:43:02

maddyone

I really don’t know why you’re all getting het up about it. Even if Nigel Farage was to win his seat, it won’t change the outcome of the election.
It’s an entertaining thread though.

If I were a Tory, I would be very worried.

Guaranteed Farage has his eye on the leadership.

It is very likely that he will win. He will the very likely do a deal with the Tory party and will be snapped up by the right.

One nation Tories must be so worried.

Boz Wed 05-Jun-24 12:48:51

Farage's supporters know what he is like. They see someone who addresses their perceived disatisfactions with the political class, who they believe is not on their side. Trump plays the same card.
Don't expect Politician (or phony ones like Farage to change the World. They will disrupt of course - wind and fire signifying nothing.