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What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:25:05

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

J52 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:41:10

Country’s *

Jane43 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:41:47

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2 Nigel Farage has made a statement which was all over the news this morning stating that the people who were filmed making the racist and homophobic remarks were no longer welcome in Reform U.K.

It’s called damage limitation. Farage is a master PR manipulator.

Sago Fri 28-Jun-24 11:42:44

Whitewavemark2

sago apparently there is a study from Germany that shows people who support the AfD- a similar political party to Reform tend to be less secure and more unhappy than average.

Reading you post I think that confirms it.

Are you willing to support a paramilitary police, or someone maintains a proper England no longer exists, etc.

What attracts you to a party of racists and bigots?

So you are saying I am a racist, homophobic, Islamophobia bigot!
You know nothing about me!
Why not answer the questions I posed rather than starting a slanging match.

Callistemon213 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:44:00

I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country

Those he speaks for are not ^the majority and they are far from silent.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:46:04

Sago

Whitewavemark2

sago apparently there is a study from Germany that shows people who support the AfD- a similar political party to Reform tend to be less secure and more unhappy than average.

Reading you post I think that confirms it.

Are you willing to support a paramilitary police, or someone maintains a proper England no longer exists, etc.

What attracts you to a party of racists and bigots?

So you are saying I am a racist, homophobic, Islamophobia bigot!
You know nothing about me!
Why not answer the questions I posed rather than starting a slanging match.

Absolutely not!

I am talking about the candidates and those surrounding Farage.

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 11:47:15

Whitewavemark2

JudyBloom

I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country. He is not racist in any shape or form. He is the only one to tell the truth of what is really going on - the poisoning of our way of life, the indoctrination of our children, all the woke idealogy, killing our democracy and decency and he is the only one who has the guts to challenge it and put the British people first, whatever their creed or colour. It is an absolute disgrace that the establishment disparage him. He is not far right. People need to be educated. Well done Nigel !

So why does he attract so many bigots, racists etc?

No one seems to answer that question.

I have already answered that question.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:47:18

Jane43

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2 Nigel Farage has made a statement which was all over the news this morning stating that the people who were filmed making the racist and homophobic remarks were no longer welcome in Reform U.K.

It’s called damage limitation. Farage is a master PR manipulator.

Of course, as was/is Alistair Campbell, Dominic Cummings and the whole caboodle of spin doctors employed by our political parties and leaders.

They all are experts on damage limitation.

Wheniwasyourage Fri 28-Jun-24 11:49:07

Callistemon213

^I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country^

Those he speaks for are not ^the majority and they are far from silent.

Hear hear!!

Oreo Fri 28-Jun-24 11:49:55

To me, the OP seems to have it in for anyone who doesn’t support the left or maybe the far left and hates anyone to disagree.
Even the title for this thread is wrong, as people like that aren’t attracted to Nigel Farage they’re attracted to Tommy Robinson.
There are some suspect and nutty Reform candidates and also some suspect and nutty candidates for the Greens but they can’t be lumped in with Nigel Farage and as long as those candidates are got rid of then all will be well.
You, OP should recognise that people don’t always hold the same views as you, but worrying about the high rate of immigration doesn’t make them racists or bigots.Gordon Brown found that out the hard way.

Jane43 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:50:59

Whitewavemark2

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

It is very similar to what happened in Nazi Germany. Hitler used Jews as scapegoats for the problems in society at the time and Reform are using Muslims. Reform supporters are grossly exaggerating and scaremongering saying Muslims will take over our society and introduce Sharia law, all this from 6% of the population. At that time we had Oswald Mosley propagating the ideology and now we have Nigel Farage. I just hope the majority of voters aren’t taken in by it.

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 11:55:58

Jane43

Whitewavemark2

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

It is very similar to what happened in Nazi Germany. Hitler used Jews as scapegoats for the problems in society at the time and Reform are using Muslims. Reform supporters are grossly exaggerating and scaremongering saying Muslims will take over our society and introduce Sharia law, all this from 6% of the population. At that time we had Oswald Mosley propagating the ideology and now we have Nigel Farage. I just hope the majority of voters aren’t taken in by it.

'It' refers to what? A few crazy people spouting hate does not mean we are living through Nazi Germany again. You should be watching what goes on with George Galloway and his cronies if you want something to worry about.

TerriBull Fri 28-Jun-24 11:56:23

I often think the attraction is more nuanced than bigots and racists being attracted to Nigel Farage, who has a dubious reputation and is someone who is no better than he should be, but his appeal lies in being prepared to take on bodies and individuals who are no better than THEY should be and that came to light in his pursuit of the "" individual versus the mighty bank". Bigotry is not a preserve or the right it's there in many guises on the left particularly in certain censorious criticisms of those who oppose particular points of view and the increasing inclination to shut down those who express anything that dissents to the official line on certain matters. Nigel Farage knows and uses much of that to his advantage.

I wouldn't consider voting for Reform because clearly some of their candidates are nuts, but I think blanketing every person who supports them as a racist and a bigot is too much of a blanket concept, when most of us know there is a mass disaffection with the two main parties and that extends to corporations and people in public life generally.

Primrose53 Fri 28-Jun-24 12:05:21

Sago

James O’Brien who attended Ampleforth and LSE.
He is the most smug, arrogant,hypocritical and rude presenter I have ever listened to.
He just stirs up hatred.

Why is someone who is intelligent enough to accept that we cannot keep housing more and more immigrants considered a racist?

Why is someone who does not accept Stonewalls teachings and values to young children a homophobe?

Why is someone who is aware of the dreadful attacks and appalling treatment of women around the world by Muslims an Islamaphobe?

👏👏👏

Primrose53 Fri 28-Jun-24 12:08:58

JudyBloom

I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country. He is not racist in any shape or form. He is the only one to tell the truth of what is really going on - the poisoning of our way of life, the indoctrination of our children, all the woke idealogy, killing our democracy and decency and he is the only one who has the guts to challenge it and put the British people first, whatever their creed or colour. It is an absolute disgrace that the establishment disparage him. He is not far right. People need to be educated. Well done Nigel !

👏👏👏

He also packs out every venue he visits so there must be plenty of people who do like him.

MayBee70 Fri 28-Jun-24 12:11:52

I’m ashamed and disgusted*to share internet space with some of the people that have commented on this thread. sad

* oh, and sickened….

Cossy Fri 28-Jun-24 12:13:22

Callistemon213

^I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country^

Those he speaks for are not ^the majority and they are far from silent.

Good god! The silent majority? I sincerely hope not! I know not even ONE person personally who supports Farage or Reform UK.

Those that do support him publicly, ie in the media or social media, are far from silent.

Cossy Fri 28-Jun-24 12:14:10

MayBee70

I’m ashamed and disgusted*to share internet space with some of the people that have commented on this thread. sad

* oh, and sickened….

Sadly, I agree.

Oreo Fri 28-Jun-24 12:16:27

MayBee70

I’m ashamed and disgusted*to share internet space with some of the people that have commented on this thread. sad

* oh, and sickened….

Oh come on 🤷🏼‍♀️
Another poster who doesn’t like opposing views.

Callistemon213 Fri 28-Jun-24 12:16:38

Cossy

Callistemon213

I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country

Those he speaks for are not ^the majority and they are far from silent.

Good god! The silent majority? I sincerely hope not! I know not even ONE person personally who supports Farage or Reform UK.

Those that do support him publicly, ie in the media or social media, are far from silent.

I didn't say that!!!
I was questioning what another poster said.

Jane43 Fri 28-Jun-24 12:21:11

Chestnut

Jane43

Whitewavemark2

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

It is very similar to what happened in Nazi Germany. Hitler used Jews as scapegoats for the problems in society at the time and Reform are using Muslims. Reform supporters are grossly exaggerating and scaremongering saying Muslims will take over our society and introduce Sharia law, all this from 6% of the population. At that time we had Oswald Mosley propagating the ideology and now we have Nigel Farage. I just hope the majority of voters aren’t taken in by it.

'It' refers to what? A few crazy people spouting hate does not mean we are living through Nazi Germany again. You should be watching what goes on with George Galloway and his cronies if you want something to worry about.

‘It’ refers to the whole Nigel Farage fiasco, hundreds of people queueing up to hear him speak and paying £5 for the privilege. People believing the ridiculous and unachievable claims of changes he will instigate which will miraculously transform the country. Galloway is insignificant, most people don’t even know who he is.

Cossy Fri 28-Jun-24 12:24:05

JudyBloom

I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country. He is not racist in any shape or form. He is the only one to tell the truth of what is really going on - the poisoning of our way of life, the indoctrination of our children, all the woke idealogy, killing our democracy and decency and he is the only one who has the guts to challenge it and put the British people first, whatever their creed or colour. It is an absolute disgrace that the establishment disparage him. He is not far right. People need to be educated. Well done Nigel !

What I find truly shocking is this statement!

So full of propaganda and half-truths.

“Poisoning our way of life” ?

I don’t think it’s us that need “educating”.

Well done for swallowing all of good old Nige’s very well performed orating.

He’s a player, if you cannot recognise this more fool you. He plays on our fears and insecurity, he’s divisive, manipulative and very clever.

It would be amusing were it not so serious and tragic!

You almost sound like a “flat-earther”.

Wyllow3 Fri 28-Jun-24 12:30:30

Can I politely correct something upthread?

"Why is someone who does not accept Stonewalls teachings and values to young children a homophobe?"

a homophobe is someone who is anti-gay nothing to do with all the Stonewall stuff.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 12:31:58

Chestnut

Whitewavemark2

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

Why would you not want a right wing party for balance?

Don't you find it very disappointing that these people are damaging that balance by their extreme far right rhetoric?

Or are you so insecure that you can't cope with a right wing party at all? Everything must be left wing or extreme left wing.

I am supporting Starmer - would you see him as extreme left?

Galaxy Fri 28-Jun-24 12:32:23

Many gay people view stonewall as homophobic at the moment.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 12:39:28

chestnut we have a right wing party for balance they are called the Tory party.

I don’t want a party that attracts the sort of people we witnessed on ch4.

They are disgusting.