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What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:25:05

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

Dickens Thu 04-Jul-24 13:41:12

growstuff

foxie48

Dickens I don't understand either. There's so much evidence of the sort of man he is and yet people are still willing to listen to what he says. I don't believe people are stupid but I think they can be very uncritical if they hear rhetoric that chimes with what they think. I sincerely hope they are not the "silent majority" or we are in a real mess. I just hope the secret service are keeping tabs on his contacts as despite what his followers may think, IMO he is not a friend of the UK and it's citizens.

After reading about his support for Tate, I'm appalled that any woman can speak positively of Farage.

After reading about his support for Tate, I'm appalled that any woman can speak positively of Farage.

This is what I don't understand - here on GN. Grandmothers, with daughters and grand daughters...

It's not as if Farage made a rational and intelligent critique of Tate and his outpourings - he just thinks that young men are under threat for being young-men - an important voice for "emasculated" men.

What the heck is he on about? Who is threatening these young men? Women? Are we demanding too much of them by asking that they stop objectifying women, cat-calling them in the street? Attacking them? Does he want women to get back into the kitchen and allow men to dominate commerce and industry and politics - is that what he's on about?

If Tate is a "role model" then Farage is encouraging all the misogynistic hate and vitriol that this man spouts. God help us if he ever gets near the levers of power - what will this mean for women?

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 13:43:48

This is a Wiki entry about Sudanese in the UK:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_in_the_United_Kingdom

The UK has historic inks with Sudan and some Sudanese are even eligible for British nationality. They were promised special entry arrangements, but these never materialised, which is why there have been Sudanes arriving on boats.

HousePlantQueen Thu 04-Jul-24 14:38:48

Oreo

It does read as if you were talking about Jews growstuff glad to hear that you weren’t, it was an intake of breath moment tho.
I see there is much disgust about some of the Reform candidates, quite rightly, but I don’t like all the disgust aimed at posters or voters who intend to vote that way.

Sorry Oreo, but I just cannot comprehend how anyone on GN can still vote Reform after all we have read on here. I had a very distressing conversation with a colleague last night, who told me why they were voting Reform. I won't repeat it here, but safe to say, I think very differently about them. Disgusted in fact.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 14:45:51

Oreo

It does read as if you were talking about Jews growstuff glad to hear that you weren’t, it was an intake of breath moment tho.
I see there is much disgust about some of the Reform candidates, quite rightly, but I don’t like all the disgust aimed at posters or voters who intend to vote that way.

I apologise for the misunderstanding.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 14:49:24

HousePlantQueen

Oreo

It does read as if you were talking about Jews growstuff glad to hear that you weren’t, it was an intake of breath moment tho.
I see there is much disgust about some of the Reform candidates, quite rightly, but I don’t like all the disgust aimed at posters or voters who intend to vote that way.

Sorry Oreo, but I just cannot comprehend how anyone on GN can still vote Reform after all we have read on here. I had a very distressing conversation with a colleague last night, who told me why they were voting Reform. I won't repeat it here, but safe to say, I think very differently about them. Disgusted in fact.

I don't understand it either.

Siope Thu 04-Jul-24 15:09:03

Farage is now just making shit up. He tweeted earlier:

“Reform UK will reject the influence of the World Economic Forum and cancel Britain's membership of it.”

We aren’t a member. No country is a member.

Despite that, 14,000 people have liked his lie, and supporters are tweeting stuff like ‘oh well done, that’ll teach them, sovereign nation, thank you Nige’…

Beyond belief.

maddyone Thu 04-Jul-24 15:14:28

I don’t do Twitter or X, or whatever it’s called these days.
I find that’s the best way to ensure I’m not reading lies and misogynistic remarks.

Siope Thu 04-Jul-24 15:19:47

I prefer to know what lies politicians are telling. I rarely see misogyny because the algorithm knows me too well!

maddyone Thu 04-Jul-24 15:32:46

I only know what people say is on X.
Death threats to female MPs.
Racism, particularly to Jewish MPs.
Death threats to J K Rowling.
Misogyny from some famous people.
No, it’s not for me.

Dickens Thu 04-Jul-24 15:35:22

growstuff

I don't understand it either.

... and I would like to.

Are those here on GN who intend to vote for Reform concerned about Farage's sympathetic stance towards a man who, by his own statements, clearly holds women in contempt (not to mention the charges currently laid against him)?

Or do they disagree with his support for Tate but think it doesn't matter because it's just words - an opinion - that would have no bearing ultimately on the way Farage governed if his party / company held power?

Maybe they even agree with Farage and Tate though? There are women willing to take a subservient role in a marriage / partnership, however I can't imagine some of the feisty Farage supporters on here in that role. It puzzles me in the same way that female Trump supporters wear T shirts emblazoned with the legend, "you can grab my pussy anytime Mr President" (or similar wording). Maybe it's just a joke - a reaction to those who criticise his "locker room" talk; a way of claiming it's an innocent bit of banter?

But those same women are quite vocal when it comes down to Starmer "not knowing what a woman is" because of his response to that question. So for them, what a prospective leader says, does matter.

So yes, I think I would like to understand the thinking.

I'm deliberately leaving out the 'Putin' issue because I simply want to understand Farage's appeal to women.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 15:35:47

I don't see death threats, racism or misogyny either because I don't choose to follow the people who spout this kind of bile.

Callistemon213 Thu 04-Jul-24 15:38:49

I'm deliberately leaving out the 'Putin' issue because I simply want to understand Farage's appeal to women

I thought he might be quite resourceful if we were lost in the tropical rainforest in Queensland. But then, I might be better than him, I know where to find water and Vitamin C 😁
Apart from that 🤔

maddyone Thu 04-Jul-24 15:45:44

growstuff

I don't see death threats, racism or misogyny either because I don't choose to follow the people who spout this kind of bile.

Because I don’t use it, I don’t really understand the format, but I hear about these things on the news from time to time. That’s why I don’t do it. I don’t suppose I’d follow those sort of people either. I’ll stick with GN, where although we may disagree with one another, and at other times agree with one another, I’m not expecting to see any poster post a death threat. Thankfully.

I also do Facebook, but I keep it very tight, so don’t see much political on there, just news about people’s birthday and holidays, and a lot of adverts. I also follow the local page to keep up with what’s happening locally. That was very useful when we wanted to find an electrician.
I’m really quite ordinary.

maddyone Thu 04-Jul-24 15:46:33

Callistemon213

^I'm deliberately leaving out the 'Putin' issue because I simply want to understand Farage's appeal to women^

I thought he might be quite resourceful if we were lost in the tropical rainforest in Queensland. But then, I might be better than him, I know where to find water and Vitamin C 😁
Apart from that 🤔

Well I don’t, so I need to be lost with you. grin