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What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:25:05

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:19:43

dickens do you think that Trump and Farage are similar in their ideology?

Nicenanny3 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:20:09

Koalama

Nicenanny3

5,000 supporters at Birmingham rally for Reform Party..
Watched every bit of it, Farage has mine and my husbands vote now 👏👏

Way to go Koalama 👏👏👏
Yes the Birmingham rally was great. Fingers crossed for a good result on polling day 🤞

Nicenanny3 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:23:05

Chocolatelovinggran

Nicenanny, Britain has always been Great. The name is, I understand, to differentiate it from Brittany.
No political party can, or ever has, made us less/ more "Great" .There is no need for GB to be made " Great again".

I honestly don't think it's great now, Britain is broken and needs reform that's why I'm voting for The Reform Party our last hope to save our country.

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:27:57

Not sure all the attendees at the rally were even from the UK.
spot the Trump cap......

Cumbrianmale56 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:32:48

This election will see almost two out of five voters vote for the so called minor parties, a record, and a sign that for all Starmer will get his beloved landslide, there are millions of voters who are fed up with the two main parties and their negative, back biting behaviour and second rate leaders. I think this should be a wake up call for the two main parties, as well as millions staying at home, that people are fed up with the political system.

zakouma66 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:33:38

Nicenanny3

Chocolatelovinggran

Nicenanny, Britain has always been Great. The name is, I understand, to differentiate it from Brittany.
No political party can, or ever has, made us less/ more "Great" .There is no need for GB to be made " Great again".

I honestly don't think it's great now, Britain is broken and needs reform that's why I'm voting for The Reform Party our last hope to save our country.

Saving it from what?

What are your hopes and dreams for where you live?

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:34:29

Whitewavemark2

dickens do you think that Trump and Farage are similar in their ideology?

They share social media platforms like National Pulse, I think the connections are more than superficial. Look at Trump and Farage on the opening page.

thenationalpulse.com/about/

The editor in chief of this website mainly based in USA now
is is a British political activist, former editor-in-chief of Breitbart News London, and former chief adviser to former UK Independence Party (UKIP) leader Nigel Farage.

He has been described as far-right and right-wing by several media publications. Kassam formerly ran in the party's November 2016 leadership election.

Casdon Sun 30-Jun-24 18:36:11

Cumbrianmale56

This election will see almost two out of five voters vote for the so called minor parties, a record, and a sign that for all Starmer will get his beloved landslide, there are millions of voters who are fed up with the two main parties and their negative, back biting behaviour and second rate leaders. I think this should be a wake up call for the two main parties, as well as millions staying at home, that people are fed up with the political system.

I’m impressed with the clarity of your crystal ball predicting the turnout and the result. You must join our election day virtual sweepstake.

Primrose53 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:38:24

Casdon

Instead of lashing out at everybody whose view is different to yours Nicenanny3, why not articulate why you are voting Reform? More than two sentences of sound bites would be good, as I’ve not seen a thought through, detailed post from you yet?

That’s really unfair. nicenanny3 has not lashed out at anyone. I think she has made her case clearly and has been very polite even when Zakouma called her a “malicious racist.”

I think you are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Her views might be the complete opposite of yours but you should respect her instead of behaving like a catty 15 year old.

zakouma66 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:38:58

“Right now all men pay for all women: we pay 80% of tax and you take out 80%. The fact you’re able to write on a technological device is all down to us.
“The cultural feminisation of the west is a disaster of epic proportions. We have elevated female characteristics – especially neuroticism, to the highest levels. Hysteria is now common place. The evidence from repeated psychologically testing is that women are appalling at taking criticism.
“Modern feminism belongs in the sewer of self hate from which it came: you say it yourself, you’re all jealous of the perceived freedoms of men.”
Ian Gribbin from Reform said this

Nicenanny3 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:40:01

A MAN WHO SPEAKS WITH BRITISH PASSION

ZIA YUSUF TODAY GAVE A SPEECH THAT ENCAPSULATED EVERYTHING THAT BRITAIN HOLDS DEAR, VALUES, HISTORY, CULTURE AND PRIDE. SPOKEN WITH PASSION AND A TONE THAT ECHOED BRITISH FORTITUDE. TODAY TRULY HIGHLIGHTED THE STRENGTH AND DETERMINATION OF REFORM UK THAT COULD NEVER BE MATCHED BY A WEAK TORY PARTY AND A COMPLETELY DELUDED LABOUR PARTY...REFORM UK IS THE PARTY OF BRITAIN.

WE THE PEOPLE OF BRITAIN ARE FED UP OF THE POLITICAL ELITE WHO WILL WATCH AS OUR COUNTRY AND IT'S PROUD VALUES ARE ERODED IN FRONT OF OUR EYES. OUR BRITAIN THAT HAS GIVEN THE WORLD SO MUCH FROM SCIENCE TO EXPLORATION OUR NATION HAS PAVED THE WAY FOR THE WORLD TO FLOURISH. OVER CENTURIES OUR SERVICE PERSONNEL HAVE FACED OPPRESSION TO PROTECT THOSE WHO COULD NOT DEFEND THEMSELVES.

NO MORE AGENDAS NO MORE DIVISION WE MUST VOTE REFORM UK JULY 4TH AND UNITE A BRITAIN THE OTHER PARTIES WILL TO THEIR BEST TO DESTROY. FED UP BRITS, FORGOTTEN VETERANS, STRUGGLING BRITISH FAMILIES LETS BRING PROSPERITY BACK TO THE UK.
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Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:41:03

I appreciate your look at how feelings and fears affect how we post Dickens.

However this election has been run it seems to me on negativity and fear in order to try and keep Labour out (or in

Nicenanny3 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:41:15

18:38Primrose53

Thank you Primrose appreciate your post 👏👏👏

zakouma66 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:42:58

Nicenanny3

A MAN WHO SPEAKS WITH BRITISH PASSION

ZIA YUSUF TODAY GAVE A SPEECH THAT ENCAPSULATED EVERYTHING THAT BRITAIN HOLDS DEAR, VALUES, HISTORY, CULTURE AND PRIDE. SPOKEN WITH PASSION AND A TONE THAT ECHOED BRITISH FORTITUDE. TODAY TRULY HIGHLIGHTED THE STRENGTH AND DETERMINATION OF REFORM UK THAT COULD NEVER BE MATCHED BY A WEAK TORY PARTY AND A COMPLETELY DELUDED LABOUR PARTY...REFORM UK IS THE PARTY OF BRITAIN.

WE THE PEOPLE OF BRITAIN ARE FED UP OF THE POLITICAL ELITE WHO WILL WATCH AS OUR COUNTRY AND IT'S PROUD VALUES ARE ERODED IN FRONT OF OUR EYES. OUR BRITAIN THAT HAS GIVEN THE WORLD SO MUCH FROM SCIENCE TO EXPLORATION OUR NATION HAS PAVED THE WAY FOR THE WORLD TO FLOURISH. OVER CENTURIES OUR SERVICE PERSONNEL HAVE FACED OPPRESSION TO PROTECT THOSE WHO COULD NOT DEFEND THEMSELVES.

NO MORE AGENDAS NO MORE DIVISION WE MUST VOTE REFORM UK JULY 4TH AND UNITE A BRITAIN THE OTHER PARTIES WILL TO THEIR BEST TO DESTROY. FED UP BRITS, FORGOTTEN VETERANS, STRUGGLING BRITISH FAMILIES LETS BRING PROSPERITY BACK TO THE UK.
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Oh dear blush

Casdon Sun 30-Jun-24 18:48:23

Primrose53

Casdon

Instead of lashing out at everybody whose view is different to yours Nicenanny3, why not articulate why you are voting Reform? More than two sentences of sound bites would be good, as I’ve not seen a thought through, detailed post from you yet?

That’s really unfair. nicenanny3 has not lashed out at anyone. I think she has made her case clearly and has been very polite even when Zakouma called her a “malicious racist.”

I think you are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Her views might be the complete opposite of yours but you should respect her instead of behaving like a catty 15 year old.

But she did. Here are some examples.

‘Only in a bigoted person's eyes.’

‘15:13Merion

Who are you voting for Starmer who doesn't know what a woman is and thinks she/they may have penises 😱 takes all sorts I suppose 🤔’

‘ Perhaps you should watch before making such bigoted claims. He's Reforms biggest donor and he's a multi millionaire.’

That is just on the current page of this thread. It’s not behaving like a 15 year old to call out somebody for responses calling people who disagree with her bigots and making ner ner ner ner ner responses. What are responses like that if they aren’t lashing out?

Nicenanny3 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:52:08

18:48Casdon

Diddums

Casdon Sun 30-Jun-24 18:52:58

I rest my case.

Cossy Sun 30-Jun-24 18:54:29

Nicenanny3

A MAN WHO SPEAKS WITH BRITISH PASSION

ZIA YUSUF TODAY GAVE A SPEECH THAT ENCAPSULATED EVERYTHING THAT BRITAIN HOLDS DEAR, VALUES, HISTORY, CULTURE AND PRIDE. SPOKEN WITH PASSION AND A TONE THAT ECHOED BRITISH FORTITUDE. TODAY TRULY HIGHLIGHTED THE STRENGTH AND DETERMINATION OF REFORM UK THAT COULD NEVER BE MATCHED BY A WEAK TORY PARTY AND A COMPLETELY DELUDED LABOUR PARTY...REFORM UK IS THE PARTY OF BRITAIN.

WE THE PEOPLE OF BRITAIN ARE FED UP OF THE POLITICAL ELITE WHO WILL WATCH AS OUR COUNTRY AND IT'S PROUD VALUES ARE ERODED IN FRONT OF OUR EYES. OUR BRITAIN THAT HAS GIVEN THE WORLD SO MUCH FROM SCIENCE TO EXPLORATION OUR NATION HAS PAVED THE WAY FOR THE WORLD TO FLOURISH. OVER CENTURIES OUR SERVICE PERSONNEL HAVE FACED OPPRESSION TO PROTECT THOSE WHO COULD NOT DEFEND THEMSELVES.

NO MORE AGENDAS NO MORE DIVISION WE MUST VOTE REFORM UK JULY 4TH AND UNITE A BRITAIN THE OTHER PARTIES WILL TO THEIR BEST TO DESTROY. FED UP BRITS, FORGOTTEN VETERANS, STRUGGLING BRITISH FAMILIES LETS BRING PROSPERITY BACK TO THE UK.
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

How utterly ironic! No more division?

Who on earth is this speaking please?

Sounds remarkably like a Tommy Robinson type!

Vote for whomsoever you please, it’s your right, all of our right, May that right please be preserved, however tenuous it might sometimes seem, look and feel, we are still a democracy.

I do not want to return to the era of the Empire thanks, where no one had any rights except white, middle class men and the elite. No thank you!

It’s sad to think intelligent women with much experience of life are being hoodwinked, but I’m afraid you are.

Cossy Sun 30-Jun-24 18:58:06

zakouma66

“Right now all men pay for all women: we pay 80% of tax and you take out 80%. The fact you’re able to write on a technological device is all down to us.
“The cultural feminisation of the west is a disaster of epic proportions. We have elevated female characteristics – especially neuroticism, to the highest levels. Hysteria is now common place. The evidence from repeated psychologically testing is that women are appalling at taking criticism.
“Modern feminism belongs in the sewer of self hate from which it came: you say it yourself, you’re all jealous of the perceived freedoms of men.”
Ian Gribbin from Reform said this

Reform UK are like slightly bonkers, slightly scary, cult leaders!

What are “British Values”

Can someone please explain?

J52 Sun 30-Jun-24 18:58:33

‘Right now all men pay for all women: we pay 80% of tax and you take out 80%. The fact you’re able to write on a technological device is all down to us‘

Actually, Aida Lovelace wrote the first computer programme in the world.
I do wish these extremists would get their facts right and present validated data.

Merion Sun 30-Jun-24 19:00:09

Don't worry Casdon. The Starmer woman/penis trope has been done to death. Under Reform only dicks will be allowed anyway ... and men who fly QAnon flags.

What is British passion? Asking for a friend.

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jun-24 19:02:58

I thought it was a troll when I saw the capitals. I don't like being "shouted" at.

But on reading it, it's a string of empty rhetoric that could have been said by anyone on the right - from the days of Empire. Anytime since the 1930's.

MayBee70 Sun 30-Jun-24 19:05:36

J52

‘Right now all men pay for all women: we pay 80% of tax and you take out 80%. The fact you’re able to write on a technological device is all down to us‘

Actually, Aida Lovelace wrote the first computer programme in the world.
I do wish these extremists would get their facts right and present validated data.

Our Labour candidate is passionate about getting more girls studying computing. She says says it was Gove who stopped that happening when he was education Secretary.

Galaxy Sun 30-Jun-24 19:05:50

British values are
Democracy
Rule of Law
Individual Liberty
Mutual Respect and tolerance.
Taught in every early years setting.

FranP Sun 30-Jun-24 19:06:42

Nigel Farage IS useful. When he makes statements, it encourages good people to think about what they are perhaps ignoring, and starting a debate about how fatuous or wrong headed his remarks are.
Germany started the slide in to Nazism, by remarks seeming to be reasonable, and by setting average folks against a specific group of people.