What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

Nicenanny3,
They think because we are voting reform, we are being hood winked 🤷, I, as an educated woman, say, what was kind of said at the rally today, when your doing well (reform party) they have to come at you some way. I rest my case. Let them carry on. They'll be betting on us next 😁

Galaxy

British values are
Democracy
Rule of Law
Individual Liberty
Mutual Respect and tolerance.
Taught in every early years setting.

That’s it.
GN could use some tolerance on the political threads by playing the ball not the man.
And on a footie note, at the mo England are winning 2-1 tho it’s not over yet.🫣⚽️

Koalama

Nicenanny3,
They think because we are voting reform, we are being hood winked 🤷, I, as an educated woman, say, what was kind of said at the rally today, when your doing well (reform party) they have to come at you some way. I rest my case. Let them carry on. They'll be betting on us next 😁

Yes Koalama I agree. Fingers crossed for polling day🤞 Perhaps the silent majority will see sense and come out and vote Reform.

Perhaps we should put a bet on Reform to win 👍

By "the silent majority", what you really mean is "the very loud minority"

Win what?

I don’t think people who vote reform are hoodwinked.

I think that they know exactly what they are voting for.

Just as they do in the USA and now France.

On the list of British values

(from my sons's uni website)

includes

"Mutual respect & tolerance of different faiths and beliefs
Understanding that we all don’t share the same beliefs and values. Respecting those values, ideas and beliefs of others whilst not imposing our own onto them."

Cossy

zakouma66

“Right now all men pay for all women: we pay 80% of tax and you take out 80%. The fact you’re able to write on a technological device is all down to us.
“The cultural feminisation of the west is a disaster of epic proportions. We have elevated female characteristics – especially neuroticism, to the highest levels. Hysteria is now common place. The evidence from repeated psychologically testing is that women are appalling at taking criticism.
“Modern feminism belongs in the sewer of self hate from which it came: you say it yourself, you’re all jealous of the perceived freedoms of men.”
Ian Gribbin from Reform said this

Reform UK are like slightly bonkers, slightly scary, cult leaders!

What are “British Values”

Can someone please explain?

I would give it a go but whatever anybody says to you, you are convinced you are 100% correct so why waste my time.

zakouma66. Ian Gribbin's views on women are really frightening. Then there are the other tweets from a stream of Reform candidates calling women bints, bitches, sluts and hags plus the derogatory remarks about Jo Cox. It's an appalling catalogue of misogyny. If these are examples of British values, I'm glad not to share them.

Yes they are rejecting the left in many places, might be useful to think about why that might be, calling people stupid and nazis doesnt seem to have been the most successful strategy.

Galaxy

Yes they are rejecting the left in many places, might be useful to think about why that might be, calling people stupid and nazis doesnt seem to have been the most successful strategy.

Certainly not in France!

Whitewavemark2

I don’t think people who vote reform are hoodwinked.

I think that they know exactly what they are voting for.

Just as they do in the USA and now France.

Well, frankly, that is much more of a worry!

JudyBloom

I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country. He is not racist in any shape or form. He is the only one to tell the truth of what is really going on - the poisoning of our way of life, the indoctrination of our children, all the woke idealogy, killing our democracy and decency and he is the only one who has the guts to challenge it and put the British people first, whatever their creed or colour. It is an absolute disgrace that the establishment disparage him. He is not far right. People need to be educated. Well done Nigel !

It is a slippery slope into Nazism, when eloquent people like Farage make it all sound defensible and reasonable, and gentle folks listen.
A couple of facts:
About 1,200 medically qualified refugees are recorded on the British Medical Association’s database. It is estimated that it costs around £25,000 to support a refugee doctor to practise in the UK. Training a new doctor is estimated to cost between £200,000 and £250,000
41% of refugees across the world are children, so are likely to assimilate more easily int their new society
A European regulation allows countries in the EU to return an adult asylum applicant to the first European country they reached, but we do not do that.
People seeking asylum are NOT allowed to work - thus aggravating assertions of cost - not their fault, but they are being blamed
Only about 0.5% of the population are refugees, and only 3,000 folks in Calais - that is something like 3 people for each UK town - hardly the invasion that he is indicating. His publicity, however, makes people think there is.

Merion

zakouma66. Ian Gribbin's views on women are really frightening. Then there are the other tweets from a stream of Reform candidates calling women bints, bitches, sluts and hags plus the derogatory remarks about Jo Cox. It's an appalling catalogue of misogyny. If these are examples of British values, I'm glad not to share them.

As am I. It’s as mad as USA women voting for Trump!

Dismissing voters views often leads to bad outcomes.France could now end up with Le Pen in control.

Just to expand a bit on what Galaxy posted, officially the five British Values are democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty, and mutual respect for and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs and for those without faith. (expansion of the final point is important).
These are the fundamental values that have been developed by the UK Government in an attempt to create social unity and prevent extremism.

That's kind of the point of votes for women. They can vote for who they like.

Merion

zakouma66. Ian Gribbin's views on women are really frightening. Then there are the other tweets from a stream of Reform candidates calling women bints, bitches, sluts and hags plus the derogatory remarks about Jo Cox. It's an appalling catalogue of misogyny. If these are examples of British values, I'm glad not to share them.

But "we" still voted for Margaret Thatcher, whose "return to Victorian values" would have had working class children out of education, women unable to vote and few able to earn money.

‘Our Labour candidate is passionate about getting more girls studying computing. She says says it was Gove who stopped that happening when he was education Secretary.‘

He also stopped Labour’s Foundation Learning initiative, which was a programme of skills and learning for 14 - 16 year olds who were not pursuing a full GCSE programme.

"Reform" is not a political party like the Conservative Party, the Labour Party, the Liberal Democrats, the Green Party, the Scottish National Party, Paid Cymru, the Alliance Party of Northern Ireland, the Ulster Unionist Party, the Democratic Unionist Party, the SDLP, or any other normal political party in the UK.

In all of these legitimate political parties members have a say in party policy, selection of candidates and party leader.

Reform is a private company owned largely by Nigel Farage who has appointed himself leader, determined party policy and paid a commercial organisation to vet candidates, many of whom have been shown to be unacceptable in their attitudes and behaviour.

Fans of Nigel Farage may have paid subscriptions or donated money but that gives them no say. Reform is to all intents and purposes a one man band.

Even so because of Farage's undoubted gift of the gab - and his Trump-like ability to lie and repeat his lies with no shame, and the helpful support of the Kremlin and the right wing media in the UK, many many voters are being duped into voting for this charlatan and his racist rabble.

Koalama

Nicenanny3,
They think because we are voting reform, we are being hood winked 🤷, I, as an educated woman, say, what was kind of said at the rally today, when your doing well (reform party) they have to come at you some way. I rest my case. Let them carry on. They'll be betting on us next 😁

Eh? Could you explain more clearly, please.

Galaxy

Yes they are rejecting the left in many places, might be useful to think about why that might be, calling people stupid and nazis doesnt seem to have been the most successful strategy.

Most of us haven’t called anyone on here Nazi’s or stupid!

Many of us are very worried about the rhetoric and “feel” of Reform UK.

Again, I ask why would you support people who have issues with LGBT people and hold some deep rooted prejudices?

I’ve no problem with strong opposition, there are good and not so good MPs across all parties, none as divisive as Reform, none as sly and sneaky as Farage.

varian

"Reform" is not a political party like the Conservative Party, the Labour Party, the Liberal Democrats, the Green Party, the Scottish National Party, Paid Cymru, the Alliance Party of Northern Ireland, the Ulster Unionist Party, the Democratic Unionist Party, the SDLP, or any other normal political party in the UK.

In all of these legitimate political parties members have a say in party policy, selection of candidates and party leader.

Reform is a private company owned largely by Nigel Farage who has appointed himself leader, determined party policy and paid a commercial organisation to vet candidates, many of whom have been shown to be unacceptable in their attitudes and behaviour.

Fans of Nigel Farage may have paid subscriptions or donated money but that gives them no say. Reform is to all intents and purposes a one man band.

Even so because of Farage's undoubted gift of the gab - and his Trump-like ability to lie and repeat his lies with no shame, and the helpful support of the Kremlin and the right wing media in the UK, many many voters are being duped into voting for this charlatan and his racist rabble.

👏👏👏👏

FranP

JudyBloom

I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country. He is not racist in any shape or form. He is the only one to tell the truth of what is really going on - the poisoning of our way of life, the indoctrination of our children, all the woke idealogy, killing our democracy and decency and he is the only one who has the guts to challenge it and put the British people first, whatever their creed or colour. It is an absolute disgrace that the establishment disparage him. He is not far right. People need to be educated. Well done Nigel !

It is a slippery slope into Nazism, when eloquent people like Farage make it all sound defensible and reasonable, and gentle folks listen.
A couple of facts:
About 1,200 medically qualified refugees are recorded on the British Medical Association’s database. It is estimated that it costs around £25,000 to support a refugee doctor to practise in the UK. Training a new doctor is estimated to cost between £200,000 and £250,000
41% of refugees across the world are children, so are likely to assimilate more easily int their new society
A European regulation allows countries in the EU to return an adult asylum applicant to the first European country they reached, but we do not do that.
People seeking asylum are NOT allowed to work - thus aggravating assertions of cost - not their fault, but they are being blamed
Only about 0.5% of the population are refugees, and only 3,000 folks in Calais - that is something like 3 people for each UK town - hardly the invasion that he is indicating. His publicity, however, makes people think there is.

To quote Paul Simon " people talking without speaking"

Casdon

Just to expand a bit on what Galaxy posted, officially the five British Values are democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty, and mutual respect for and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs and for those without faith. (expansion of the final point is important).
These are the fundamental values that have been developed by the UK Government in an attempt to create social unity and prevent extremism.

Not sure any of us would argue with this?

I ask again, what is Reform’s view or belief or their definition of British values?