Labour in line to get the largest majority since 1832......

Thinking back, I got through it and I'm still here - and I still haven't had Covid, so it could have been worse. I'm afraid it makes me cross when people go on about how everybody was supported financially because they most certainly weren't.

I was in a similar situation to you growstuff, in that I was also retired but not on a SP, vulnerable but not clinically so, and my university work dried up. As I am no longer salaried but work on a consultancy basis I am paid for hours claimed, but they reduced to almost nothing until remote learning got into its stride.

Meanwhile, I was doing a 'recreational' MA at the same university (different subject obviously) and we students got no reduction in fees, so they 'clicked' both ways - charging students but not paying a lot of staff. I was paying full fees with no student loan, as I already had qualifications at above Level 7, but I had no earnings to set them against, so my savings took a further hit. I was living on savings anyway, as I had no pension.

Luckily, Mr Dog has a decent pension and we share resources anyway so I wasn't going to starve, but I agree that the much vaunted help didn't go to everyone. My sister got full furlough because she was office-based and on a regular pro-rata salary. As you say, I don't begrudge her (or others) the help, but it wasn't evenly distributed.

State-sponsored forced labour, really.

Well, quite😆

I recently had a little exchange with a guy on X who said it was fine for rich people to get richer because their 'earnings' didn't put up the prices of anything. But raising workers' pay meant that their employer would have to raise their prices to cover the cost of wages. So workers shouldn't get pay rises.

It struck me that applying that 'logic' would mean that workers never, ever got a pay rise...

Of course, he hadn't really thought it through at all. But he wasn't terribly keen to continue the discussion. I assume that he thought I was just an ignorant female ☹️

Exit polls 😃😁🙏🏽

Hallelujah🙏🙏🙏

Yes yes and yes. Going to be an interesting night.

Gutted today had bbc on Laura around gloating and called Sunak a brand between 7am and seven thirty today Is that acceptableits so depressing need to turn bbc off.

I’m very worried about the ‘independants - including Corbyn ‘ and very worried about Reform - thank goodness Galloway has disappeared.
Nothing is going to change for me: life will stay difficult. Don’t believe in miracles or unicorns

Casdon

I’d be very surprised if that happens. I think it’s being hyped up by the media and the Tories, so when the Tories get more seats than predicted they will be able to salvage some dignity.

So you must every surprised this morning !!

Not worried at all,relieved.
Hope it all goes well for them.

So it is Friday and i am ecstatic! My useless MP has gone! We have more women in Parliament than ever. I am not expecting overnight miracles but I am expecting dignity and honesty! My new MP is definitely in that league!

Well, if some voters in Wales , just interviewed on ITV, are anything to go by it's anyone's guess!
Shown a picture of Keir Starmer, one man said "Starman, is it?", another said "Who is he?" and two older ladies said "Never heard of him".
Some of us Welsh folk must of heard of him - not conservative in sight at the end of the election

Yes, It's democracy - and thank the lord we're not in a dictatorship.
But I am very concerned about the possible/probable extension of wokery, and the effect it may have on women.

The threat of high council tax on expensive properties is worrying, but like many we've downsized since retirement so would not be threatened by this, I hope.
It looks pretty certain that Inheritance Tax would also be affected which could affect a larger proportion of the population that many imagine.
We should remember that not everyone who has money inherited it, many have made it for themselves, sometimes at great cost to family life and leisure.

Casdon

I’d be very surprised if that happens. I think it’s being hyped up by the media and the Tories, so when the Tories get more seats than predicted they will be able to salvage some dignity.

But it does look as though it is happening. Frankly I think that many of the Tories do deserve the drubbing that they are getting at the hands of the electorate. So many of their MP's appeared to be in it for the glory and the money, rather than for serving their community. And so many of them were not from the area which they were supposed to be serving.

Why would anyone be worried after what we have been through all these years with the Tories it can’t get any worse than it is now

What is going to cost a lot is if we have to change from gas central heating to electricity. There will be SO many windmills all over the UK.
One just hopes after 5 yrs in government the Tories will get a lot of their seats back

cc

The threat of high council tax on expensive properties is worrying, but like many we've downsized since retirement so would not be threatened by this, I hope.
It looks pretty certain that Inheritance Tax would also be affected which could affect a larger proportion of the population that many imagine.
We should remember that not everyone who has money inherited it, many have made it for themselves, sometimes at great cost to family life and leisure.

Exactly, DH and I sacrificed a lot of family time to build up our SME, and the thought of our AC having to pay even more IHT I find extremely difficult to swallow!

There are going to be some very busy lawyers and accountants in the coming weeks/months, for those who haven’t already made their affairs watertight

My purely personal view is , as regards council tax, so many people - mostly elderly - need social care.
We cannot leave people in situations so often described here in GN as regards carers and shortages in SSD etc.

To me if that means more expensive properties pay a little more, it only seems fair.
Many people have worked all their lives and worked hard at cost family lives and leisure but don't have the resources you allude to.

However before too much doom-mongering goes on, Labour has pledged not to change council tax bands

However I do recognise that its very post code dominated as to where you live in this country - ie higher mortgages etc.

No government yet ever has really been able to address this effectively and I'm not sure how it ever can be.

Staying in our family was a decision I re-visited when my husband died. I decided to stay, I’m happy here with good memories over 35 years. It’s still ‘coming home’ for our adult children. Grandchildren have bedrooms when the stay over.
It meant accepting less disposable income but my choice and I realise one I’m lucky to be able to make.
I’m happy to pay more council tax -
I share Starmer’s belief in public service which includes contributing financially now I’m too old to work

I’m expecting stamp duty to be raised for houses over £1m. That will have an effect on the market. Many people will be thinking of moving sooner rather than later.

Horrendous result imho - Labour cannot define what a woman is, God help the green belt, taxes taxes and more bl**dy taxes, plus a raid on pensions - I'll eat my hat in 5 years if I'm wrong!

Perhaps raising the lower limit for stamp duty then raising it at the top end. I doubt there’s too much angst over people buying houses over £1m paying a bit more tax. Our whole housing market is a mess and clearly needs sorting .

Doodledog

Dark talk of 'measures' is making me laugh.

Let's hope that the new government will plug loopholes that allow Some People to take measures that give them the advantage over the rest of us, and treat fiddlers in the same way as the previous one has treated so-called benefit cheats. Tax should be applicable to everyone in the same way, not just those without access to 'measures'.

Absolutely!

TakeThat7

When labour were last in the housing was no better Schools hadhuge numbers in a class children with specific difficulties
Couldnt get help what are they going to do Hope they find out what the public really want instead of assuming they do

When Labour were last in private rental was affordable and a normal family with regular jobs could get a 100% mortgage and it too was affordable. Now in my town the cheapest property is unattainable for most people either rental or mortgage. So housing WAS better.